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[OPT] 【关键】反驳这类观点成为STEM 24 MONTH OPT法案关键。(带翻译)

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fish2015 发表于 2015-11-11 10:06:50 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

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本帖最后由 fish2015 于 2015-11-11 10:11 编辑 . 鍥磋鎴戜滑@1point 3 acres

I would like to submit my comments in response to this proposed rule, regarding to Docket ID: ICEB-2015-0002. Extension of opt for F-1 nonimmigrant students with stem doesn't benefit the U.S. government and U.S. local residents. I strongly disagree to approving this rule on Oct 19, 2015.
. 鐗涗汉浜戦泦,涓浜╀笁鍒嗗湴
First, the new proposed extension of OPT benefits neither local businesses nor U.S. economy. Most of students who just graduate from school and want this extension are not well-trained or rich-experience technical employees. From a local business perspective, companies are looking for rich-experience and well-communicated technical employees. Apparently, the population of new international students with OPT is not a good option. International students can't stay as long as U.S. residents unless they can gain h1b visas. No matter how long this extension is, the issue won't be solved and companies won't be able to gain lots of benefits from training the new international grads with new extension STEM OPT as long as the number of H1B approved visas still remains small. In contrast, the international students will use the experience they learned from U.S. companies against U.S. companies and hurts U.S. economy for a long run after they go home with 2 or 3 years work experience in U.S.第一点,OPT延期不会影响到美国经济与当地企业发展。只有有影响力的人才,有丰富经验人才的流失才会对当地企业造成影响。不论OPT是否延期,由于H1B的数量有限,大多数留学生还是会回国,而这些在美国训练有素的学生回到自己的国家,将来可能成为与美国经济竞争的对手。有点养虎为患的感觉。. From 1point 3acres bbs
鏉ユ簮涓浜.涓夊垎鍦拌鍧.
Second, most of international student employees with OPT don't pay Social Security taxes and Medicare taxes because the tax exemption from IRS. If they want to stay and work in U.S. longer, I suggest that they should apply for H1B instead of using new proposed extension of OPT. It's unfair for local people who live and work hard here but pay more taxes. It's about fairness and equal justice. What's more, the more position filled by international students with OPT; the fewer social security taxes will be collected. It will be a new burden of U.S. government to continue paying retirement pension with less social security taxes. Hence, no new extension is necessary and new proposed rule is not a good solution.. 1point3acres.com/bbs
第二点,OPT延期不符合美国的利益。由于OPT学生不缴纳美国养老金和美国养老医疗保险金,而美国学生如果实习或者工作,仍需要缴纳,所以如果把这些岗位留给美国学生,那么政府可以减轻税收压力,反之将增加税收压力。这里讲到美国精神公平公正。一样的工作需要缴纳一样税收才公平。

Third, the new OPT extension has side effect of stabilizing U.S. population. I suspect whether U.S. government is ready for a new wave of immigrations caused by the new OPT extension. According to the U.S. immigration and population growth, U.S. Immigration currently contributes over 2.25 million people to the U.S. population annually. And this new proposed rule will boost the population to another heap. It will be too late if we don't take any action to stabilize U.S. population. Population has been a concern of environmentalists since the first Earth Day in 1970. What's more, all of F-1 non-immigration visa holders should not have the immigration intent otherwise it will invalidate the initial purpose to enter U.S. It may cause the difficulty for future international students studying here as the suspicion of immigration intent. .1point3acres缃
第三点,由OPT延期,使得更多的学生可能会留下来工作并长期居留在美国。这个观点与当初留学不移民的无移民倾向之初念有悖,所以这样反而可能增加将来来美国学习的学生之签证困难。其次,OPT延期可能照成的美国移民人口激增,以及OPT延期直接可能照成的短期人口密集都可能对美国的环境带来影响。

Fourth, providing more OPT opportunities to STEM graduates will NOT assist U.S. companies in the application of the latest strategies and techniques in the field. In contrast, they will limit opportunities to American students. For a better quality of work, people enjoy the localized service. With no doubt, American students can do it better than anyone else in the world. Also, international students who hold the second or third year OPT extension will also limit opportunities to other international students who just enter the job markets. This will discourage the students studying in U.S. This proposed rule only benefits the new international grads at most recent 2 years. After that, it will be a nightmare since no new grads will enjoy the saturation of job market.
第四点OPT延期的机会并没有给企业带来什么很多的好处。作为现在商业本地化个性化的延生,应该没有比本地人更熟悉本地了吧?提供地道周全的服务想必是客户和公司所想的。反而,国际学生长期逗留美国带来的困扰使得美国工作市场饱和,美国人和其他新来的国际学生都找不到工作,反而使得将来的国际学生对美国缺乏兴趣。有点旧的不去新的不来的意思。

Fifth, our government is built and formed by our people. We are paying taxes years over years. U.S. government should pay every penny on the U.S. residents instead of irrelevant foreign citizen. In a word, they are not our people and we don't want to spend any penny on them.
第五点,美国政府由美国人组成,自下而上。年年赋税,美国政府应该多为本国公民考虑而非多管闲事。总之,他们是外国人,不想在他们身上浪费一分钱。

The Duration of the STEM Extension should be cancelled. With this comment, I urge you support the U.S. economy by NOT implementing this new rule. Thank you for your consideration and time.
总之,关于STEM的OPT延期应该被取消。为了美国的经济强盛,强烈建议不执行不通过该法案。感谢您的考虑与宝贵时间。

. 1point3acres.com/bbs


  • Foreign-Born--50-Years-Growth.pdf
  • 附件 近五十年的外国出生的人口在美国的增长(美国官方人口普查结果)
. visit 1point3acres.com for more.
. From 1point 3acres bbs

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mint0715 发表于 2015-11-11 12:19:15 | 显示全部楼层
原来是篇负面。。。 鏉ユ簮涓浜.涓夊垎鍦拌鍧.

刚想摘抄一下发出去。。。囧
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yongmat 发表于 2015-11-11 13:35:20 | 显示全部楼层
这是之前发在别的楼里的,在这里再发一次吧,如果大家看看是否有可取之处。
逐条分析的:
1.像他说的,确实增加h1b数量是最合理的处理办法。但是在那之前,延长opt可以使优秀的留学生得到更多拿到h1b的机会。在美留学生之所以希望opt延长,也是因为希望增加h1b的抽中机会。
2.如果可能的话,留学生也希望在工作之后马上申请h1b,马上交税。没有人会因为逃避税收而延后自己h1b的申请。但是是否申请h1b是雇主决定的,并不是由学生本身决定的。而现在如果opt缩短,那么在抽签概率下降的情况下,企业更加不愿意帮留学生申请h1b,这样会造成更多的税收流失。另外申请opt的留学生中,大部分是自费来美国读硕士,并且给美国带来了大量的经济收入。如果opt缩短,那么可能得到的税收收入很可能远远小于留学生的减少而导致的经济损失。
3.可以统计一下高科技移民给美国的人口带来的增长,(这个数据我不知道,但是有这方面数据的人可以提供一下)。其实直观也能看的出来,高科技移民基本上都不会在生孩子方面做的太夸张。相反墨西哥那边涌入的人才有可能是人口大幅增长的源头。如果政府年初都通过了有关非法移民的法案。那么这个opt的延长就更加不应该是问题。. 涓浜-涓夊垎-鍦帮紝鐙鍙戝竷
4.opt的延长可以使企业更加愿意为留学生办h1b,这样并不能增加滞留在opt身份的人数,相反可能减少这样的人数。工作岗位并不是有限的,高科技移民不仅是现在的雇员,在以后更有可能成为雇主,给本土的美国人制造就业机会。长远看来,这是促进经济的好事。
5.并不是所有涉及外国人的法案都是对美国人不利的,延长OPT对美国人的长远利益是更有利的。

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