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[PS/CV] 转自Quora:SOP在申请中是否重要

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dalring_G 发表于 2016-3-11 14:53:06 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

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Uh folks...
I'm sorry, but these answers (except for Jay's) are flat out wrong.

As a faculty member who's been working on admissions for nearly a decade, and my other colleagues from other schools will confirm this, the SOP is the LEAST useful and impactful part of your application.. Waral 鍗氬鏈夋洿澶氭枃绔,

I'm particularly worried that readers here will get the wrong idea, especially since the existing 2 answers seem so strong in their opinion.  It is fine to spend time on your SOP (as well as you should), but you should not be under the impression that it will have any significant impact on your overall application outcome.  There are ways to write a better SOP that stands out, but for the most part, they have little to do with writing/presentation style and more about distinguishing content.

I'm going to repeat my other answer What are the points to be covered in a statement of purpose for applying for graduate school?
The short version: 99% of SOPs sound identical. Either avoid wasting time on it, or make it original by doing something different.  But know that in all likelihood, it will have very little impact on your admission chances:
. visit 1point3acres.com for more.
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Interesting answers.
. 鍥磋鎴戜滑@1point 3 acres
Let me add a different point of view.  I've been a professor for 8 years, and have looked through hundreds of SOPs every year as part of grad admissions for our CS department.  
. 鍥磋鎴戜滑@1point 3 acres
OK, this is going to be slightly disappointing to some of you, but at least my personal view is that, with the exception of a couple of points which I'll mention below, in general, the SOP just doesn't matter.  You have to realize we admissions committees look through hundreds of these. So everyone will have some version of "I found my first PC when I was 4 years old and fell in love..." story.  It's cool, and it means a lot to many of the applicants, but it doesn't do much to help their case for why THEY should be admitted over the other hundreds of students in the pool.  So yes, do NOT make grammatical errors, do not say inane things that reflect *negatively*.  But beyond that, most SOPs will do little to hurt or help your application.

Now let me get to the exceptions. Yes, there are ways to stand out amongst the piles and piles of applications and make a faculty member remember you. How?  Simple: talk research.  The best way to convince the admissions committee you're ready for a phd is to talk research. Tell us your ideas, what's your vision for your area, what big inevitable trends do you see in the future, and how do you capitalize on them? What are hard problems you've already tried to tackle, and how did you succeed/fail?  This is where an applicant can show that they have the clarity of thought to think hard about a real problem, and show the reasoning skills (and intuition for identifying tricky or interesting problems).

I'm always excited by the rare applicant who clearly has thought through a research area, and has some ideas and real thoughts about problems he/she wants to tackle. It's fine if the ideas are not likely to succeed, or if the thoughts are not realistic for current research. What matters is that the student showed their logical reasoning skills, and their passion for research at the same time.

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SakuraXTY 发表于 2016-3-11 22:41:16 | 显示全部楼层
之前让一个美国博士指导我写SOP,当时他就让我以写research proposal的方式写sop的后半部分。看大量的教授的论文,自己提出课题,并写出研究计划和预期结果。开始觉得挺冒险的,和我平时看的sop模板都不一样,但是还是照着做了。申请期间很辛苦,每个学校要看几十篇论文才能写个像样的research proposal。不过结果出来还是挺让人满意的。虽然没多少offer大部分都是ad。但没有被拒。
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youngxu789 发表于 2016-3-11 18:14:00 | 显示全部楼层
个人的感触是于绝大多数人而言SOP还是比较重要的。毕竟只有极少数的撼地神牛才能在甩出简历的瞬间就亮瞎了Committee的黄金眼(抵抗力如此薄弱的Committee member不如趁早回家改行卖煎饼果子)。言归正传,首先楼上也有提到match的问题,而SOP很大程度上就是一个向Committee展示你match的论证过程。论点:我很match。论据:我做过啥啥啥啥。论证:啥啥啥啥跟贵校该专业之间是如此这般的无缝衔接着。

补充内容 (2016-3-11 18:15):
最终水到渠成,通过SOP让committee明白你就是那三千东流水中最能解其燃眉之急的一瓢。
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find_advice 发表于 2016-3-11 15:04:47 | 显示全部楼层
简而言之,SOP除了科研都是废话。

另外,从自己面试和文章中可以看到,不要仅仅写自己用什么方法做了什么。要写出自己对领域的理解,以及自己新的idea或proposal。更重要的,将来想从事哪方面的工作,你想从事什么研究课题。
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jim2420 发表于 2016-3-11 15:13:15 | 显示全部楼层
gooosssssss
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朔夕茂 发表于 2016-3-11 15:32:53 | 显示全部楼层
为啥我的sop只写了科研,方法方向都写了 依然0 offer中
所以sop虽然很重要,但是. From 1point 3acres bbs
录取还是好多因素的综合
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find_advice 发表于 2016-3-11 15:40:44 | 显示全部楼层
朔夕茂 发表于 2016-3-11 15:32
为啥我的sop只写了科研,方法方向都写了 依然0 offer中. 1point3acres.com/bbs
所以sop虽然很重要,但是
录取还是好多因素的综合

你说了你的SOP里有好多typo,这个确实比较麻烦……

大多数还是首先看match吧……

bless
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朔夕茂 发表于 2016-3-11 15:50:53 | 显示全部楼层
find_advice 发表于 2016-3-11 15:40
你说了你的SOP里有好多typo,这个确实比较麻烦…….1point3acres缃
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大多数还是首先看match吧……

不啊 申请第一个学校的时候很多typo啊  后面就没了
只要是我的课题冷门  gt很低  各种低
你懂的
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蓝胖子呱 发表于 2016-3-30 12:24:46 | 显示全部楼层
mark一下,估计要gap, 用的上
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analyze 发表于 2016-3-30 15:28:57 | 显示全部楼层
朔夕茂 发表于 2016-3-11 15:32. From 1point 3acres bbs
为啥我的sop只写了科研,方法方向都写了 依然0 offer中. 鍥磋鎴戜滑@1point 3 acres
所以sop虽然很重要,但是. 鍥磋鎴戜滑@1point 3 acres
录取还是好多因素的综合

楼主的论点是,sop不重要,所以写的再好,也只能是作用有限啊
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