又是家暴...芝加哥一丈夫枪杀母女4人，女儿还是优秀医学生...

linglingeight 发表于 2024-01-23 18:38:20
芝加哥本来就禁枪

禁到欧洲那么严格的地步？

ubatuba 发表于 2024-1-23 22:08
禁到欧洲那么严格的地步？

比瑞士瑞典挪威丹麦都严

linglingeight 发表于 2024-01-23 18:38:20
芝加哥本来就禁枪

这是100%的谣言。

beetle 发表于 2024-01-23 19:12:16
比瑞士瑞典挪威丹麦都严

Illinois is surrounded by states with much weaker laws, and an outsized share of likely trafficked guns recovered in Illinois are originally purchased out-of-state—especially in Indiana, just across the border from Chicago.

Switzerland's restrictions show that a country can have a culture that is broadly more receptive to the idea of gun ownership while maintaining some restrictions that make firearms less accessible to potentially dangerous people and improve public safety. But it's perhaps no coincidence that the country is second only to America among developed nations in terms of firearm homicide deaths.

https://www.myjournalcourier.com...take-a-16757666.php

In Illinois, there were 8,474,505 firearm background checks in 2021, the most nationally, according to FBI data. In 2020, the number was 7,455,065 and in 2019 the figure was 4,949,570. 2021 set the record for most firearm background checks since they first began being tracked in 1998, and background checks can serve as an indicator of gun sales.

More than 38,000 guns were sold in Illinois in December, down 1% month-over-month from November and 10% year-over-year from December 2020. More than 1.4 million guns were sold in the country in December, according to The Trace, which uses estimates based on data from the FBI and U.S. Census Bureau. Approximately 581,936 guns were sold in 2021 in Illinois, with 638,753 sold in 2020. Compare that to 2019, when 428,309 were sold.

ε=(´ο｀*)))唉，累死累活干了40年养三女儿一儿子，一个架吵崩溃了。家庭和谐建设多么重要，关爱父母多么重要。

ubatuba 发表于 2024-1-23 22:19
Illinois is surrounded by states with much weaker laws, and an outsized share of likely trafficked  ...

禁枪派老生常谈，芝加哥禁枪全国最严犯罪率却全国最高，绝对不是因为芝加哥涉枪犯罪可以几百块保释，都是其他州的错。

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li ... y_guns_and_homicide

至于你比较美国和瑞士的枪杀率，就是春秋笔法，不是一个数量级。每10万人里因枪死亡的人数，美国是12，瑞士是2.6
在同一区间的还是奥地利2.7，芬兰2.4，法国2.3，还有一堆欧洲国家处于1-2之间。

singku 发表于 2024-1-23 22:25
ε=(´ο｀*)))唉，累死累活干了40年养三女儿一儿子，一个架吵崩溃了。家庭和谐建设多么重要，关爱父母 ...

母亲中7枪，3个女儿每人中两枪，儿子 “not physically injured”.

一查这姓Kassem，a surname of Arabic origin,。这畜生不一定把女的当人看。

芝加哥不禁枪。当然，很多人喜欢信谣传谣。

beetle 发表于 2024-01-23 20:03:29
禁枪派老生常谈，芝加哥禁枪全国最严犯罪率却全国最高，绝对不是因为芝加哥涉枪犯罪可以几百块保释，都是其他州的错。

https://en.wikipedia.

文字游戏是拥枪派的拿手好戏了

. 1point 3 acres用wikipedia的表格跑跑回归分析就会发现，枪杀率和拥枪率强相关，虽然有outliers，但不怎么影响相关性

. Waral dи,下面链接还表明，枪杀率跟城镇化率正相关，跟传统红蓝州有一定相关性

https://www.healthdata.org/news-...ited-states-outlier

下面链接表明谋杀率与黑人比例正相关，另外chicago 2021年homicide rate不显著高于一般美国大城市

https://www.rit.edu/liberalarts/...omicide%20Stats.pdf

2019 甚至还不如2021
https://drexel.edu/uhc/resources/briefs/BCHC%20Gun%20Deaths/

. 拥枪率对婚内妇女遭受homicide的影响
https://www.indexmundi.com/facts...PSRC.FE.P5/rankings

另外降低拥枪率以及加重惩罚也是禁枪的一部分，并不是说我支持拥枪并支持某个党派，另一个党派的政策就没有纵容枪杀的行为