奥兰多枪击事件对移民的影响？

川普本身的立场倒是还好，打击非法移民，起码在三分地里是很受欢迎的；
但是现在大家对于川普的一个担心在于他假设上台之后，可能推出的任何举措和法案都会遇到非常大的阻力，因为民主党和共和党都不买他的帐。

关于orlando，川普其实是非常老奸巨猾的，omar mateen其实就是一个radicalized lone wolf，跟IS并没有直接关系，而这样的案子，川普立刻就把其定位到IS和极端主义身上，因为他很清楚这样一个事件后面引发的讨论要么是极端主义相关，要么就是控枪相关。川普在所有其他人都没有发声，FBI也还没有提供任何准确信息的时候，就直接在twitter上吹嘘自己对于极端主义和IS的强力，就是为了转移注意力，因为注意力一旦到了控枪上面就对他可能不利，他有NRA的endorsement；

个人觉得
T对华有没有敌意不知道, 但是妹纸对华肯定不会好!
T打击的是非法移民, 能上这个论坛的基本都不会是非法移民吧.

vegito2002 发表于 2016-6-14 16:34
川普本身的立场倒是还好，打击非法移民，起码在三分地里是很受欢迎的；
但是现在大家对于川普的一个担心在 ...

大哥，isis都宣布负责了，你还说跟他们无关，你被奥巴马洗脑洗的不轻啊

llatjob 发表于 2016-6-14 20:29
大哥，isis都宣布负责了，你还说跟他们无关，你被奥巴马洗脑洗的不轻啊

不要动不动就用洗脑这个词。你懂的可能还没有人家多。这种独狼袭击，是IS指使的，还是他自发的，本来就是还在调查的事情。IS当然巴不得宣布所有恐怖袭击都是他计划好的，来制造更多恐慌和自己很强大的假象。这个案子牵涉到控枪、反恐、移民和LGBT，川普直接把议题往自己擅长的反恐和移民问题上引确实是很聪明。

大家好厉害！～看到大家说的我就踏实点了～虽然我不踏实也没啥意义～》《～
之前看地里有个用户一直在说移民形势严峻的问题，觉得真的是……一言难尽
难民比正经努力建设老美的人移民还容易，唉，真不知道他们怎么想的

没啥影响。对大选有影响 lgbt+穆斯林 好敏感

llatjob 发表于 2016-6-14 20:29
大哥，isis都宣布负责了，你还说跟他们无关，你被奥巴马洗脑洗的不轻啊

多看看新闻好吗，不是IS宣布负责就负责的，这个人跟saint bernadino的夫妻一样，只是受到影响而已；

But in that case, there was never any direct link to ISIS found. Even after months of investigation, officials have not been able to find a direct link to ISIS aside from a Facebook post the wife put up just before the attack.   
from NPR

bernadino shooting已经过去几个月了，都无法证实实际与IS有关。IS虽然宣布负责，但是他们并不能提供任何尚未被美国媒体报道的具体细节，证明他们没有在事件中play a part，他们并不知道真实的情况，只是顺水推舟捡个便宜而已；

But he also appeared to claim solidarity with the perpetrators of the Boston Marathon bombing and solidarity with a Florida man who died as a suicide bomber in Syria for Al-Nusra Front, a group in conflict with the so-called Islamic State.
from NPR

而波士顿马拉松案的策划人，是受al qaeda影响，这个人2013年早期的时候就曾经因为激进言论被FBI调查，而

Omar Mateen may not have understood the difference between ISIS, al-Qaeda and Hezbollah
https://www.washingtonpost.com/n ... aeda-and-hezbollah/

FBI Assistant Special Agent in Charge Ronald Hopper said agents questioned him two times in 2013 after he allegedly invoked ties to terrorists during a dispute with co-workers.

“We were unable to verify the substance of his comments and the investigation was closed,” Hopper said.

The following year, agents talked to him again about his contact with suicide bomber Moner Mohammad Abusalha, a Floridian who joined a branch of Al Qaeda and blew himself up in Syria in 2014.

from LA Times

还有这个：

Well, he's 29 years old. He was born here in the United States. His parents came from Afghanistan. He was a security guard in West Palm Beach and had had that job - a steady job - the past nine years. Officials say that he made some inflammatory remarks to co-workers back in 2013. And those statements were investigated by the FBI. He was questioned again in 2014, but there wasn't any reason to pursue it any further. The FBI decided he wasn't dangerous.
It's important to note that ISIS didn't even exist when Mateen was questioned. As far as we know, he has no al-Qaida connections or ever tried to travel to join other terrorist groups. Officials have been worrying for a long time that the saturation coverage of ISIS rather than the ideology itself will end up motivating terrorist attacks in this country. And I think they're trying to get to whether or not this is a case of that.
from NPR

这个人的爸爸也是一个神经病，自己成立了一个伪阿富汗政府，自称总统，这些都是随便google都能搜到的信息，这个人一家都神经不正常。


大家好歹都是要当码农的人，说别人被洗脑之前，先google一点，不是什么过分的要求吧？

vegito2002 发表于 2016-6-14 22:57
多看看新闻好吗，不是IS宣布负责就负责的，这个人跟saint bernadino的夫妻一样，只是受到影响而已；

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我的英语.....

我只想说如果在一个国家难民和偷渡客居然比名校毕业生更容易拿到绿卡。是不是有点太可笑了

自动连发枪n年前就被民主党提案禁止了

怎么一个资深民主党员还能搞到啊

所以，这是个什么控枪问题？？

奥垃圾连个族裔和宗教背景都不愿意正面提

自由派脑路果然不同凡响啊
楼上那个Google的

被人说洗脑 不冤枉