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Why higher taxes on the rich doesn't fix everything?

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刚在Quora上看到一个有趣的问题,得票最多的回答更是有趣,举了个家庭的例子讲简单的taxing。虽说这是给5岁孩子讲的,我觉着我看着也是个挺好的例子。。哈哈。。

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How would you explain it to a 5-year old why higher taxes on the rich doesn't fix everything?

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So say that your 5 year old can make money by doing things around the house.

$5 for making their bed
$5 for putting away their toys
$5 for putting their dirty clothes in the laundry room
$5 for going to bed on time

They can do any or all of these chores.  

Dad is the government.  

For the first $5 you earn, dad will take $1 and you keep $4.  Dad will give this $1 to grandpa because grandpa used to do a lot of stuff around the house (social security).  So if you do one chore, you get $4 and pay $1 in taxes.

For the second $5 you earn dad will take $2 more and you keep $3.  Dad will use $1 to buy food for your baby sister (food stamps). And will give $1 to your brother who doesn't do any chores (welfare).  If you do two chores you get $7 and pay $3 in taxes.

For the third $5 you earn, dad will take $3 more and you keep $2.  Dad will use this money to buy a new crib for your baby sister (infrastructure spending). So, if you do three chores you get to keep $9 and pay $6 in taxes.

For the fourth $5 you earn, dad will take $4 more and you keep $1.  Dad will use this money to buy some new locks for the doors (defense spending).  So if you do 4 chores, you get to keep $10 and pay $10 in taxes.

You get to make the decision on how much money to make, and how to spend it.  Let's say you're a rich person and will do 3-4 chores.  Here are your options:

You can decide that all this sounds fair and do all your chores for $10.
You can do some of your chores because it's not worth going to bed on time for just $1.
You can vote for Mom to be the Government at the next family meeting because she promises that if you do 4 chores you'll get to keep $12.
You can give $1 to your aunt (who's an accountant) because she knows a special family rule about children who do all their chores. She says you'll get to keep $13, pay $6 in taxes, and give her $1.
You can give $3 to your uncle (who's a lobbyist) because he can convince your Dad to not tax you for your 3rd and 4th chores.  He says you'll get to keep $14, pay $3 in taxes, and give him $3.

Raising taxes on the rich doesn't work as well as we think it will because rich people find ways to not pay the higher taxes.

Hopefully this example teaches about graduated tax rates (how we try to make rich people pay more), how rich people try to avoid paying taxes, and some of the ways the government spends the taxes it collects.  Maybe it also teaches about democracy and why Government (Dad) can't make up bad rules or you'll vote for Mom. Maybe it also makes the 5 year old ask why his/her brother gets $1 for doing nothing.

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modifiedname 2012-7-11 05:13:16 | 只看该作者
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哈哈 this is a good one
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zach 2012-7-11 06:11:52 | 只看该作者
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赞!写的真好。。。
“ Maybe it also makes the 5 year old ask why his/her brother gets $1 for doing nothing.”
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admit 2012-7-11 06:14:32 | 只看该作者
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贊!那天還在Quora上看到另外一個很有意思的問題和回答:http://www.quora.com/Natalie-Por ... -is-Natalie-Portman
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 楼主| RehsuR 2012-7-11 06:57:59 | 只看该作者
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admit 发表于 2012-7-10 16:14
贊!那天還在Quora上看到另外一個很有意思的問題和回答:http://www.quora.com/Natalie-Por ... -is-Natali ...

无知的我还跑去google了一下Natalie Portman。。。。。。。。。只是这名儿好像觉得有点儿耳熟。。
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 楼主| RehsuR 2012-7-11 07:06:50 | 只看该作者
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zach 发表于 2012-7-10 16:11
赞!写的真好。。。
“ Maybe it also makes the 5 year old ask why his/her brother gets $1 for doing  ...

要是真有小孩儿这么问你你怎么回答?。。
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zach 2012-7-11 12:15:15 | 只看该作者
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RehsuR 发表于 2012-7-10 18:06
要是真有小孩儿这么问你你怎么回答?。。

如果不给他$1他就会饿死那出于人道显然要给。
给多给少是政策问题了,给太多会破坏平衡,给他讲讲tradeoff、balance啥的。。。
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 楼主| RehsuR 2012-7-12 00:10:00 | 只看该作者
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zach 发表于 2012-7-10 22:15
如果不给他$1他就会饿死那出于人道显然要给。
给多给少是政策问题了,给太多会破坏平衡,给他讲讲tradeo ...

其实要是问为什么brother什么都不干也要给钱,那基本上就是出于血缘了。。。但现实中是没血缘的也得给,就有些忧郁了。。
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modifiedname 2012-7-12 00:39:37 | 只看该作者
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zach 发表于 2012-7-11 12:15
如果不给他$1他就会饿死那出于人道显然要给。
给多给少是政策问题了,给太多会破坏平衡,给他讲讲tradeo ...

这个比方其实有局限,brother要饿死爹妈干嘛要生他,生了还不养。。。。
至于本身那个问题,其实还有不饿死也可能造反。
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zach 2012-7-12 03:50:35 | 只看该作者
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RehsuR 发表于 2012-7-11 11:10
其实要是问为什么brother什么都不干也要给钱,那基本上就是出于血缘了。。。但现实中是没血缘的也得给,就 ...

因为不给钱就饿死了么。
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