地里真的没有申请哲学的吗

donnice 发表于 2021-6-17 06:18
会点希腊语就能拿出来吹了？而且你最多也就是在哲学的某几个分支略有成就，你敢说你精通哲学所有领域？你 ...

. check 1point3acres for more.不是会一点，是可以到达在中国的大学哲学系开这门课的水平。就算高级希腊语教不了，教教初级中级还是可以。

北京大学哲学系是中国第一的哲学系。你去问问北京大学哲学系的本科生、研究生，有几个人可以不借助词典，读这东西读得八九不离十的。
你别喷了。门外汉。只有自己水平低，才觉得别人是在吹。说明你没见过世面。

lajlnfalfadsln 发表于 2021-6-17 06:37
不是会一点，是可以到达在中国的大学哲学系开这门课的水平。

北京大学哲学系是中国第一的哲学系。你去 ...

君子生非异也，善假于物也。只要能读明白一篇文章，无论是用字典也好，用AI也好，还是用超能力也好都无所谓。关键是你要能读懂，通透，明白它的思想，吸收它的精华，了解它的局限，而不是向别人炫耀“我懂，你不懂”。这就是我这个普通大学的理科生和你最大的差距，希望你早晚有机会明白过来

donnice 发表于 2021-6-17 06:41
君子生非异也，善假于物也。只要能读明白一篇文章，无论是用字典也好，用AI也好，还是用超能力也好都无所 ...

你就是个门外汉。你水平低，没见过世面，才觉得我是在炫耀。看你也没读过什么好学校。

lajlnfalfadsln 发表于 2021-6-17 06:47
你就是个门外汉。你水平低，没见过世面，才觉得我是在炫耀。看你也没读过什么好学校。

你哪个眼睛看到我觉得你在炫耀？我想表达的是，你对哲学的认知恐怕连我一个普通的理科生都不如。我看到的只有你莫名其妙的傲慢以及无知，不学无术却想守卫自己自尊的那种可悲

donnice 发表于 2021-6-17 05:44
我个人觉得就人类目前对哲学的理解，还远远不到能开一个哲学专业的地步。我觉得真的想搞哲学研究的，至少 ...

俺感觉哲学现在可能有两个用：
1. 探索一些其他领域比较虚或者还没成型滴理论，或者起到颠覆作用paradigm shift
2. 系统性探索自己生活领域：为啥活，下一步要做啥，做啥有意义，没意义又如何，etc.

可能还有第三个。。对世界有一些更深入的了解。。这个可能也可以放到2.下面

要点可能是系统性，对比想一出是一出的探索方式

其他领域做些哲学的也挺多的，比如物理，heisenberg（不是绝命毒师那个）是实打实的platonist, 世界是由数而不是量子构成滴：

”In the philosophy of Democritus the atoms are eternal and indestructible units of matter, they can never be transformed into each other. With regard to this question modern physics takes a definite stand against the materialism of Democritus and for Plato and the Pythagoreans. The elementary particles are certainly not eternal and indestructible units of matter, they can actually be transformed into each other. As a matter of fact, if two such particles, moving through space with a very high kinetic energy, collide, then many new elementary particles may be created from the available energy and the old particles may have disappeared in the collision. Such events have been frequently observed and offer the best proof that all particles are made of the same substance: energy. But the resemblance of the modern views to those of Plato and the Pythagoreans can be carried somewhat further. The elementary particles in Plato's Timaeus are finally not substance but mathematical forms. "All things are numbers" is a sentence attributed to Pythagoras. The only mathematical forms available at that time were such geometric forms as the regular solids or the triangles which form their surface.“

活猫死猫那个schrodinger

”atomism has proved infinitely fruitful. Yet the more one thinks of it, the less can one help wondering to what extent it is a true theory.Is it really founded exclusively on the actual objective structure of ’the real world around us’ ? Is it not in an important way conditioned by the nature of human understanding—what Kant would have called ’a priori“

其实物理和哲学关联还挺大的，那段时间量子力学哪些人或多或少都在讨论这些哲学的东西。爱因斯坦也写过很多，大多也是关于hume和kant滴

“It has often been said, and certainly not without justification, that the man of science is a poor philosopher. Why then should it not be the right thing for the physicist to let the philosopher do the philosophizing? Such might indeed be the right thing to do at a time when the physicist believes he has at his disposal a rigid system of fundamental concepts and fundamental laws which are so well established that waves of doubt can’t reach them; but it cannot be right at a time when the very foundations of physics itself have become problematic as they are now. At a time like the present, when experience forces us to seek a newer and more solid foundation, the physicist cannot simply surrender to the philosopher the critical contemplation of theoretical foundations; for he himself knows best and feels more surely where the shoe pinches. In looking for a new foundation, he must try to make clear in his own mind just how far the concepts which he uses are justified, and are necessities”

他们大多都相信某种程度上的instrumentalism,科学不是用来认识世界的，而是做有用未来预测的

这些人有点算其他领域跨境做些纯哲学的探讨

相反的，纯哲学研究，hume, kant啥的本身就对物理有很大的影响。wittgenstein滴truth table，和逻辑学本身aristotle, leibniz, frege，对写代码影响也挺重要滴。。。所以俺感觉单独学哲还是可以做的，但是也同意有时候容易走偏。。关键可能还是系统性和一定的逻辑性

我本科也是哲学的（双专业），那些说读哲学没用的多半半本哲学书都没碰过吧。人类社会发展到现在，每门学科都有它存在的意义和价值，不然早随着科技和社会发展被泯灭了，比如颅相学。
Btw, 顺便问问大家都说的豆瓣是哪个豆瓣小组呀？我没找到。。

WillWang98 发表于 2021-06-06 04:24:23
感觉豆瓣里面聊文科申请的都比这里多。。。

再同意不过了 唉

我申请艺术史和历史博士。。。也是找不到人哈哈哈，如果想的话也可以一起讨论一下，毕竟都是文科

我本科也是哲学，准备24申请美国的心灵哲学研究生，之后想走学术，有一个方向的uu可以认识一下呀

我也想找组织 请问你准备申请啥时候的硕士还是phd呀？