华为Mate 60 Pro被证实用了中芯国际7nm技术

加拿大的一个实验室把Mate 60 Pro的SoC芯片的封装拆了，证实是用了中芯国际7nm N+2的技术。

这消息对高通，Intel,，AMD，英伟达都会有很大影响，也怪不得英伟达说如果再限制卖给中国AI芯片，这个市场就会失去了。

https://www.techinsights.com/blo...-huawei-mate-60-pro

TechInsights Finds SMIC 7nm (N+2) in Huawei Mate 60 Pro

TechInsights, the authoritative information platform of the semiconductor industry, analyzed the new Huawei Mate 60 Pro smartphone in the last 24 hours. The Mate 60 Pro was expected to include a 5G application processor and SoC (system-on-chip) from HiSilicon, the Kirin 9000s.

Explore Our Findings on the TechInsights Platform

The team found evidence of SMIC 7nm (N+2) which represents a made-in-China design and manufacturing milestone for the most advanced Chinese foundry TechInsights has documented. Some of the highlights include:

The Kirin 9000s die measured 107 mm2, which is 2% larger than the Kirin 9000 (105 mm2). From various identifying features on the die, the team concluded the processor is manufactured by SMIC.
Initial lab results indicated that this die is more advanced than SMIC’s 14nm process node but presents larger critical dimensions (CDs) than what TechInsights has observed for 5nm process.
Additional measurements of critical dimensions (CDs) on the die, including logic gate pitch, fin pitch and lower back-end-of-line (BEOL) metallization pitches, the analyst team concluded the die has 7nm features.

“Discovering a Kirin chip using SMIC’s 7nm (N+2) foundry process in the new Huawei Mate 60 Pro smartphone demonstrates the technical progress China’s semiconductor industry has been able to make without EUV lithography tools,” said Dan Hutcheson, Vice Chair of TechInsights. “The difficulty of this achievement also shows the resilience of the country’s chip technological ability. At the same time, it is a great geopolitical challenge to the countries who have sought to restrict its access to critical manufacturing technologies. The result may likely be even greater restrictions than what exist today.”

“This also reinforces TechInsights commitment to speed and quality of analyzing critical industry advancements,” said Gavin Carter, CEO, TechInsights. “The TechInsights team moved at a lightning pace to ensure we can bring this insight to the market using our Ottawa, Canada based industry-leading laboratory and highly technical engineering team this type of deep dive analysis.”

真是没想到竟然真的自主做出来了。也就是说老共真的还有一些依然在保密状态的杀手锏，怪不得脱钩的底气这么足，最近1年这么硬气。

匿名用户 发表于 2023-9-6 08:17
光做出来还不够 还得有人买 赶紧消费吧 是时候把手里的iphone/galaxy/pixel换了

8月29日，在没有发布会、没有任何官方预热宣传物料的情况下，华为年度旗舰机型 Mate 60 Pro 正式开启预售。据 Tech 财经网消息，截至9月1日，华为 Mate 60 Pro 线上、线下双渠道销量总计约 80 万台。
据消息透露，供应链方面已经确认华为 Mate 60 Pro 加单至 1500万-1700 万台。

https://36kr.com/p/2417538273800451

匿名用户 发表于 2023-9-6 15:40
手机这种东西有啥好争的？
随便一个手机使用影响不大啊。

• 你怎么不去跟美国说手机这东西有啥好争的，为了个手机以国家力量去技术封锁中国一个企业。
• 你没关注不代表国内各个领域没在进步。随便举几个例子：
• 医疗领域今年国产核磁共振设备实现量产 https://36kr.com/p/2360617942108040
• 民用大飞机国产发动机 CJ-1000A 今年初就已经在试飞平台上试飞测试中了 https://www.163.com/dy/article/HRKI84VN0515STP0.html
• 今年国内 JF-22 风洞通过验收，成为世界最快的风洞平台 https://www.sohu.com/a/684409181_389195
• 还有去年的大型盾构机实现国产化 https://www.163.com/dy/article/I4DMVDAD0553ACSY.html
• 例子太多了，感兴趣可以去自己查看。所以各行业一直在进步，只是你没在关注罢了。
  

好，支持脱勾

光做出来还不够 还得有人买 赶紧消费吧 是时候把手里的iphone/galaxy/pixel换了

芯片制造技术本来就在台湾人手里，虽然两岸对立但都是华人，大陆挖台湾的技术人员要容易的多，美国想彻底制止芯片制造向大陆的技术转移很难

但是明显华为在刻意低调，这是华为的风格？你猜为啥？

在前一段时间国内公司 赛微电子 宣布国产 BAW 滤波器实现量产。BAW 滤波器（Bulk Acoustic Wave）中文全称为“带谐振腔体声波滤波器”，该器件是 5G 射频前端必不可少的滤波器。
5G 射频前端的滤波器分为表声波滤波器（SAW 滤波器）和体声波滤波器（BAW 滤波器）两种，其中 SAW 滤波器比较适合 2GHz 左右及以下的频段，而 BAW 滤波器的优势在于中高频段的性能优势，如更小的插入损耗、更高的带外抑制等。那么 SAW 滤波器前者核心技术掌握在日本厂商手里，BAW 滤波器主要由美国厂商垄断。
美国制裁华为之后，华为就不能使用采用美国技术生产的芯片，说白了就是在 5G射频前端的滤波器方面，被卡了脖子。
现在国产 BAW 滤波器实现量产算是突破了这个方向的封锁了。

中芯只有DUV，应该是用了多重曝光，成本高良率低