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补个Quantnet上一个今年的比较哥大金数还有纽大金工大家的看法，虽然是比较但最後好像都在讨论Tandon了，感觉真的是很谜的项目 ..
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原网址：https://quantnet.com/threads/in- ... d-nyu-tandon.38055/
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OP:
I recently got acceptances from both NYU Tandon and Columbia MAFN. I'm actually unsure about which program to choose, and would love to hear some opinions. Columbia obviously has huge brand recognition, but other than that, the reviews have not been great. Students aren't very happy with the course structure and career services, and I don't know if the administration has taken and acted on feedback from students. On the other hand, what I've read about Tandon's program seems very encouraging despite the unflattering reviews that the program used to get earlier, and they seem very responsive to students' feedback. Dr. Peter Carr and team seem to be genuinely trying to improve the program, and it appears that the curriculum is quite practical and industry-focused as opposed to being overly theoretical. The placement services also seem more hands-on compared to Columbia. But I'm still unsure whether those things are enough to overcome the sheer weight that a Columbia education lends to a résumé. There is no doubt that a Columbia name opens doors. Thus, the dilemma.
I'd be really grateful if folks could share their thoughts on how the Columbia MAFN program compares against the NYU Tandon, in terms of curriculum, infrastructure, administrative responsiveness and career services, and whether someone like me (who has no quant work experience) would be a better fit at the former or the latter program. Thanks!
Selection of comments: (not my personal opinions). 1point 3 acres
- Columbia mafn is much more math rigorous so for a quant research role that may be useful.
- If you want the name in the diploma, Columbia won't disappoint. However, they have 3 or 4 programs and rumor has it MAFN is at the bottom of the list. I haven't met many people from the this program but they ones I've gotten to know, let's just say they are no part of the "sharpest tools in the shed". I might have bad luck but, man, what a coincidence. I haven't met people from the Tandon school but I've met Peter Carr multiple times. In my opinion, he is a good guy, a good professor and I think, he will do the best to push the program forward..1point3acres
- I think Msor is the lowest though.-baidu 1point3acres
- I don't know anything about the program themselves just of the rather small sample of ex-students I have met coming out of the MAFN and MSOR programs. Again, the graduates from the MSOR program were better (by a lot IMHO) than the ones out of the MAFN program. I don't have a real opinion about the programs in terms of content since I haven't done a lot of research of them (besides reading QN). Outside of the ranking or reviews, opinions about the programs in this forum are from people who "want" to be in the program but have no idea of what's really going on after you get in..1point3acres
- My personal (sample size of 1) experience with NYU Tandon has been overwhelming negative, although it has been almost 3 years since I graduated. (graduated before Peter Carr)
- If you want the name in the diploma, also consider that Columbia has quietly become a commodity in terms of professional degree offerings; even the label is of questionable value.
- use columbia's name as your advantage while you still can... i graduated from another columbia program and both the columbia name and the program content helped me advance my career extensively
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- I've worked in recruiting for a bit and I've seen some successful MAFN grads, even recently. I would say for now it probably has an edge over tandon as it is still a growing program.. 1point 3acres
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- Personally I'm leaning towards NYU at the moment, mainly because the Columbia program offers little to no career support, which is not a problem for people who already have work experience in the financial services industry and can network their way into a new job, but for someone like me who has no background in the industry, it is a serious handicap.
- Yes and this is my biggest concern as well... But now I prefer to Columbia. First, my undergradute school ranks only about 10th in China, Columbia's reputation attracts me a lot. Also, I find that the reason that people feel optimistic about Tandon is Peter Carr and Sarah, these two persons instead of the program itself, it actually makes me a little worried... Anyway, people have different opinions, hopefully we can get admissions of better programs later!
- I am currently a first-year student in MSFE from NYU Tandon. Congratulation on your admission of Columbia and NYU Tandon first. I want to share some experience in Tandon to provide some suggestions and hope that would help you make a decision. I know a lot of people in China cares a lot about the rankings of school or the reputation of the school, yes it is one of the factors that you should consider. But when the two programs are in a similar tier, I think it is more important to think about what you can learn and what you want to get from the Master program. The career service in Tandon is really great, our placement director Sara is very dedicated and that is what Columbia MAFN does not have. When you are finding an internship, school resources is very important and Peter and Sara do bring a lot of great resources. In Tandon, you also have a lot of opportunities to work with professors even with Professor Peter Carr, and this is a great chance to improve yourself. My experience in the U.S tells me that what really matters is what you have done and what you can do rather than what your school ranks. By the way, NYU also has a great reputation around the U.S, which does not really have much difference with Columbia. And you don't really need to worry about people came Tandon because of Peter Carr or Sara, they came for them is because they are actually making the program better and better. So it does not really matter why they came for them or the program itself, it is the same thing. Last year, I also received an offer from UCLA's MFE which is also a great program, but at last, I decided to come to Tandon, attracted by its various courses offered every semester. This course variety is very unique from other schools. And now I firmly believe that I make a great choice and really enjoin my life studying in Tandon. Looking forward to seeing you join us. Let me know if you have any concerns or questions.
- The number of people shilling for NYU Tandon on Quantnet really is incredible. No other school/program has nearly the same number of people defending it. I don't know the exact reason, but some possibilities aren't good. Look at NYU Tandon FRE reviews. Out of 27 reviews, EIGHT of them were 4/5 star reviews with the following dates in 2017:
June 11th, June 12th, June 13th, June 13th, June 13th, June 14th, June 18th, June 18th.
Anybody who believes, prima facie, that all those reviews are organic is out of their mind.
Keep that in mind as you read people touting the program.
- Yeah while I feel like other programs such as Fordham are getting overlooked. I did in-depth research and found many students get front office jobs. I also saw class size is small so it made me apply there. The director interviews applicants himself and gave me a very strong impression that the program is legit, what I’m trying to say is do your own research and don’t buy into the hype.
- I was attracted by various courses offered each semester in the NYU Tandon MFE program and small class size (about 30 people per course). Personally, I prefer to have more freedom to choose whatever we want to learn or develop. The various courses provide us a lot of choices to choose whatever we are interested in because I believe even among the same Financial Engineering background, there are still a lot of different directions students want to develop towards. Also, New York City is really convenient when you are interviewing with some companies because a lot of them are located in New York. The career service is really great in Tandon, there are a lot of resources and our program have our own career net to apply jobs, a lot of opportunities there, and I have already received an offer last semester.. 1point3acres.com
- thanks for your sharing! The helpful career service in Tandon actually attracts me a lot. I also heard that many current students have found internship in the US. Are you doing intern now? Do you mind sharing your company and position? At the same time, how do you like the professors teaching in Tandon? Because I saw there are some negative comments about several professors... Thank you so much for your kind word again!
-yes the career service is great and a lot of students have found intern/full time in the U.S. I have already received an offer from RBC last year, quant position, which is what I am interested in. The opportunity is gained through department resources. Until now, most professors I met are great and willing to help. It is just about how you like their teaching styles. No matter what schools, you will meet different professors with different teaching styles, some of them you would really like but some you may not. But at least now, the professors who teach me are great, even they have different teaching styles, they are very willing to help students if you have questions either through email or office hour. So I do not think you need to worry a lot about the professors' rating. Most professors have a lot of experience in the industry, so they would also share their stories or recent news, which is fun. So you do not really need to worry about the rating of the professors. Everyone has different styles and every student also might prefer different teaching styles, so those comments can only be a reference but I do not think it is a crucial factor to determine whether to join Tandon or not.
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