大家对同性恋怎么看？

ruly7170 发表于 2013-3-31 22:59
没办法，和他们一代有代沟。。

等到你们长到我这么大也就是你父辈的年龄或许就明白了

chrishacker 发表于 2013-3-31 21:02
如果科学没有你这点所谓的经验靠谱, 还要科学干啥呢...
根据呢? 相关的研究在哪里?
没做过研究, 大个十 ...

这个故事就是我们那时候同学们的亲历。

ruly7170 发表于 2013-3-31 22:59
没办法，和他们一代有代沟。。

其实我不会对同性恋到底是先天还是后天作什么判断的...相关的书我也读过, 不过毕竟自己不研究这个, 所以也不好说, 只能猜测两种情况可能都有吧, 我瞎猜的, 别当真.

我只是不喜欢这种既不学习又凭着自己所谓的经验乱下结论的态度, 碰到这种人我见一次喷一次, 没啥好说的.

只要你们以平常的心态与你们父母讨论就可以得到合适的答案。

乱码了, 已删

cctv3568 发表于 2013-3-31 23:02
这个故事就是我们那时候同学们的亲历。

" 冬天冷这些12、13岁的孩子就挤在一起睡觉，那时孩子们还未发育成熟，早一点的jj开始长毛，大家都很好奇，也能硬起来。晚上睡觉抱团取暖就有了肌肤挨着，有人好奇别人的jj，手碰到后就帮着撸起来，相互撸，也能硬，也能射，有射当然爽。但很快一个学期后孩子们解散了，回到原来的学习和生活环境，也没有条件别人帮你撸，想撸也是自己来，恢复到正常状态。升学、喜欢女生。如果环境不改变，又有更大男孩唆使勾引的话这些少年儿童就很容易变成所谓的同性恋。"

难道说某人被撸了，射了, 爽了, 就有可能成为Gay了...不对吧，因为明显他想女人的时候会射得更爽...我完全可以说, 如果一个人生来就是异性恋, 就算被撸个一百次也不会变成Gay的. 你怎么反驳?
关键在于论证相互手淫和同性恋之间的关系，而不是这一事实是否存在...所以离你的勾引论还远着呢...

zach 发表于 2013-3-31 14:43
被歧视蒙蔽了双眼就连小学生都不如了呗

zach大，很多时候我觉得要改变别人的观点很难，争辩也无用，很可能还会让对方固化自己已有的观点。有时候又觉得，额，不反驳这样的观点真的做不到。争辩到底是为什么呢。。。为了那些站在中间的看清么。。。

cctv3568 发表于 2013-3-31 09:02
这个故事就是我们那时候同学们的亲历。

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
突然想起来国内看不到这个link，贴个开头儿在下面。

Anecdotal evidence
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
        Look up anecdotal evidence in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
See also: Confirmation bias and Cherry picking (fallacy)
The expression anecdotal evidence refers to evidence from anecdotes. Because of the small sample, there is a larger chance that it may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representative samples of typical cases.[1][2] Anecdotal evidence is considered dubious support of a claim; it is accepted only in lieu of more solid evidence. This is true regardless of the veracity of individual claims.[3][4][5]
The term is often used in contrast to scientific evidence, such as evidence-based medicine, which are types of formal accounts. Some anecdotal evidence does not qualify as scientific evidence because its nature prevents it from being investigated using the scientific method. Misuse of anecdotal evidence is an informal fallacy and is sometimes referred to as the "person who" fallacy ("I know a person who..."; "I know of a case where..." etc. Compare with hasty generalization). Anecdotal evidence is not necessarily representative of a "typical" experience; in fact, human cognitive biases such as confirmation bias mean that exceptional or confirmatory anecdotes are much more likely to be remembered. Accurate determination of whether an anecdote is "typical" requires statistical evidence.[6][7]
Accounts of direct personal experience are commonly equated to anecdotal evidence where the evidence is anecdote, hearsay or represents a conclusion deduced from generalisation. Unlike anecdotal evidence, the reliability of accounts of personal experience is normally capable of assessment for legal proceedings.[citation needed]
When used in advertising or promotion of a product, service, or idea, anecdotal reports are often called a testimonial, which are banned in some jurisdictions.[citation needed] The term is also sometimes used in a legal context to describe certain kinds of testimony. Psychologists have found that people are more likely to remember notable examples than typical examples.[8]

gnijuohz 发表于 2013-3-31 09:59
zach大，很多时候我觉得要改变别人的观点很难，争辩也无用，很可能还会让对方固化自己已有的观点。有时候 ...

我觉得是，为了把不同的观点摆出来，让围观的自己去判断。。

cctv3568 发表于 2013-3-31 09:08
只要你们以平常的心态与你们父母讨论就可以得到合适的答案。

这是个科学问题，跟是不是与父母讨论无关，和任何看过相关科普的，对logical fallacies有些了解的，都可以讨论得到比较靠谱儿的答案。