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[H1B] 翻阅了157页DHS的文件,说一下对于转专业申请H1B的要求

 
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目前有两份文件DOL(劳工部)关于工资要求的(147页),地里讨论的很多了,发布后即可生效,没有公示期
还有一份DHS(国安部)157页的,里面关于强化Special Occupation, 和对job的新要求(必须非specific,不能general),还有对申请的公司也有一定要求
这里我专门截取对于转专业申请CS,EE的 H1B的内容

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关于从事EE工作的,以及学历和工作如何match
The requirement of a direct relationship between a degree in a specific specialty, or its equivalent, and the position should not be misconstrued as necessarily requiring a singular field of study. Section 214(i)(1) of the INA allows the “attainment of a bachelor’s or higher degree in
the specific specialty (or its equivalent)” (emphasis added). The placement of the phrase “or its equivalent” after the phrase “in the specific specialty” means that USCIS may accept the equivalent to a degree in a specific specialty, as long as that equivalent provides the same (or essentially the same) body of specialized knowledge.
of study are closely related, for example, electrical engineering and electronics engineering for the position of an electrical engineer, a minimum of a bachelor’s or higher degree, or its equivalent, in more than one field of study may be recognized as satisfying the “degree in the specific specialty (or its equivalent)” requirement of section 214(i)(1)(B) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1184(i)(1)(B). In such a case, the “body of highly specialized knowledge” required by section 214(i)(1)(A) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1184(i)(1)(A), essentially would be the same, and each field of study would be in a “specific specialty” directly related to the position consistent with section 214(i)(1)(B) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1184(i)(1)(B).
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关于 其他专业 从事CS工作的
If the minimum entry requirement for a position is a general degree without further specialization or an explanation as to what type of degree is required, the “degree in the specific specialty (or its equivalent)” requirement of section 214(i)(1)(B) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1184(i)(1)(B), would not be satisfied. For example, a requirement of a general engineering degree for a position of software developer would not satisfy the specific specialty requirement. In such an instance, the petitioner would not satisfactorily demonstrate how a required general engineering degree provides a body of highly specialized knowledge that is directly related to the duties and responsibilities of a software developer position.55

Similarly, a petition with a requirement of an engineering degree in any or all fields of engineering for a position of software developer would not suffice unless the record establishes
how each or every field of study within an engineering degree provides a body of highly
specialized knowledge directly relating to the duties and responsibilities of the software .google  и
developer position.56

The issue is whether a proffered position requires the application of a body
of highly specialized knowledge as required by section 214(i)(1)(A) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1184(i)(1)(A), and attainment of at least a bachelor’s degree in the specific specialty (or its equivalent) as required by section 214(i)(1)(B) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1184(i)(1)(B). If an individual could qualify for a software developer position based on having a seemingly unrelated degree in any engineering field or in general engineering, or its equivalent, then it cannot be concluded that the position requires the application of a body of highly specialized knowledge and a degree in a specific specialty because someone with an entirely or largely unrelated degree may qualify to perform the job.57. Χ

56 The requirement of any engineering degree could include, for example, a chemical engineering degree, marine engineering degree, mining engineering degree, or any other engineering degree in a multitude of unrelated fields.
57 In these examples, the educational credentials are referred to by the title of the degree for expediency. However, USCIS separately evaluates whether the beneficiary’s actual course of study is directly related to the duties of the position, rather than merely the title of the degree. When applicable, USCIS will consider whether the beneficiary has education, specialized training, and/or progressively responsible experience that is equivalent to completion of a U.S. baccalaureate or higher degree in the specialty occupation.


我的理解:
1. Special Occupation 和转专业申请 之前的文件就应该有严格要求(在某sb上台后),我有个同事环境工程专业 在FLG从事码农 h1b extension就被拒了),但是我还没有翻阅之前的版本,所以没有做比较 ..
2. 新版对于转专业申请要求很严格,但是没有完全堵死,如果上了很多cs的课,加上有training,和工作的 experience 可以被dhs综合考虑
3. 这个有60天公示期,公示期间大家一定要奋力写comment (特别是转专业,或者工作要求比较general的),让这个文件不能顺利通过,最好大选后自动胎死腹中


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coob12345 2020-10-8 09:33:23 | 只看该作者
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古风剑气 发表于 2020-10-8 09:04
有点不理解 为什么大家一开始不转专业直接读CS 非要后来读了其他学位找码农工作?这不是走弯路吗?

因为我们专业不对口的人,没有你这么高瞻远瞩
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古风剑气 发表于 2020-10-8 09:04
有点不理解 为什么大家一开始不转专业直接读CS 非要后来读了其他学位找码农工作?这不是走弯路吗?

补充内 ...
. 1point 3 acres
有点不理解 为什么大家一开始不直接生在美国 非要后来再来美国读书找码农工作? 这不是走弯路吗?
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 楼主| ohmystill 2020-10-8 00:30:49 | 只看该作者
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Mr_HAHAHAHAHA 发表于 2020-10-7 22:47
非常感谢楼主,想问一下dhs文件原文的链接在哪里啊?想去看一下,昨天gg了一晚上都没有找到。。。
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我把文件链接放到 这楼
我在原文 没有看到 WSJ 说的EE 不能做CS的工作
这个可能是他们仓促理解的
你可以从文件里帮我 dig一下 double check 一下. ----

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非常感谢楼主,想问一下dhs文件原文的链接在哪里啊?想去看一下,昨天gg了一晚上都没有找到。。。
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 楼主| ohmystill 2020-10-8 07:15:32 | 只看该作者
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Mr_HAHAHAHAHA 发表于 2020-10-7 22:47.1point3acres
非常感谢楼主,想问一下dhs文件原文的链接在哪里啊?想去看一下,昨天gg了一晚上都没有找到。。。

有啥解读么
晚上过来更新下
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 楼主| ohmystill 2020-10-8 07:18:00 | 只看该作者
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IG 对这个的解读是这样, 我既希望与她的经验 能解读准确吧
但是我觉得 deny 和 ref 肯定要大涨的
http://immigrationgirl.com/new-r ... t-in-about-60-days/

ImmigrationGirl

October 6, 2020

I would get an education plus experience evaluation to show you have the equivalent of a bachelor’s in computer science


ImmigrationGirl

October 6, 2020
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yes work experience can count to get the equivalent to the proper field of study. Χ


SM-baidu 1point3acres

October 6, 2020

Hi Emily,

Is the change to Speciality Occupation overly restrictive? For example, if I have a degree in Electrical Engineering with coursework in Computer Science and currently working as a Software Engineer, will my H1B application be rejected? Thank you very much for your time!

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ImmigrationGirl

October 6, 2020 ..

this one is not much of a change for me. You would want to obtain an education plus experience evaluation equivalent to a computer science degree. I already to this for my cases.
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哇,那感觉如果不是cs专业而是其他像什么is或者msis之类的是真的不行了啊
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 楼主| ohmystill 2020-10-8 09:00:31 | 只看该作者
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Lydia1112 发表于 2020-10-8 08:59
哇,那感觉如果不是cs专业而是其他像什么is或者msis之类的是真的不行了啊

如果是new grad 我觉得mis is专业 找码农工作 是真的不行了
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Lydia1112 发表于 2020-10-07 17:59:00. From 1point 3acres bbs
哇,那感觉如果不是cs专业而是其他像什么is或者msis之类的是真的不行了啊
Is好像是可以的,专业代码11开头的就是cs大类,is是11开头
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