BBB法案中合法移民部分也议事仲裁被否决了嘛？

如题，几大主流媒体（CNN, NBC, NYT....)都已经报道了，标题几乎都是写 “Senate parliamentarian rejected Immigration Plan”但文中主要内容是强调否决了提供非法移民保护并获得工作签证的部分，而对合法移民的另外两项措施几乎毫无着墨。

很疑惑，议事仲裁是把整个移民政策的包裹都否决了，还是只针对非法移民保护的条款？ 欢迎大家讨论啊。

sillyboy 发表于 2021-12-17 11:19:46
Sen. Kelly says Dems to meet this afternoon & will talk about immigration next steps. Signaled he’s

这些人都是演戏给自己的支持者看的。看多了美国的政坛，你会发现真正要通过的东西都是不声不吭地私下协商，然后公开协商好的结果。对于有争议的议题，高调打嘴炮的目的是做秀，不是想通过啥法案。

EB是韭菜，不割白不割； 大篷车里的才是亲爹，当然要优先安排

DACA优先级远高于EB，DACA没戏的话EB都不会讨论

非法的不行，估计其他相关条款也不行

WSJ: “The par­lia­men­tar­i­an’s rul­ing doesn’t touch on a sep­a­rate set of pro­pos­als de­signed to help im­mi­grants caught in years­long green card back­logs by re­cap­tur­ing un­used visas from pre­vi­ous years and cre­at­ing ex­tra fees for some im­mi­grants to jump ahead in line. De­moc­rats sent the par­lia­men­tar­ian a memo on those pro­vi­sions last week, ac­cord­ing to De­mo­c­ra­tic aides fa­mil­iar with the mat­ter.”

Build back broke 不是整个都死了吗

陈_Chen 发表于 2021-12-17 11:35
WSJ: “The par-lia-men-tar-i-an’s rul-ing doesn’t touch on a sep&#17 ...

谢谢，是的，我也有看到其他媒体有类似说法:

https://www.rollcall.com/2021/12 ... c-immigration-plan/

The House-passed measure would also help immigrants, mostly from India, stuck waiting in a yearslong green card backlog created by strict per-country visa caps, by “recapturing” visas that went unused at the end of each fiscal year since 1992. But those provisions were not addressed in MacDonough's decision Thursday.

bill3389 发表于 2021-12-17 11:50
Build back broke 不是整个都死了吗

这个可能性不高，民主党还是愿意通过BBB。

Sen. Kelly says Dems to meet this afternoon & will talk about immigration next steps. Signaled he’s willing to support sidestepping parl opinion. "I am willing to look at other options to get this done. 也就是说民主党参议员准备override parliamentarian 了，好像只要获得40票支持 就可以override, 这次民主党铁了心的要通过非法移民保护法案，主要看Manchinn的态度了。
signals support for overriding the parliamentarian’s immigration decision: “I think we should use the rules that we have. And if you're talking about sidestepping and disregarding her advice, yes, I would disregard her advice.” Sen. Cortez Masto said.

serein 发表于 2021-12-17 12:10
DACA优先级远高于EB，DACA没戏的话EB都不会讨论

这个明白，但是合法移民的措施已经白纸黑字写进众议院通过的版本了，只要议事仲裁认为合法移民的部分符合预算规则，可以保留下来，我想民主党到时候不会说“要留一起留，要死一起死吧。。。“   当然如果民主党做出这样的事，我也不会惊讶就是了。。。

WeiPWSL 发表于 2021-12-17 13:22
这个明白，但是合法移民的措施已经白纸黑字写进众议院通过的版本了，只要议事仲裁认为合法移民的部分符合 ...

仅仅是个memo，byrd process开始了吗？也就是Senate Parliamentarian只审核了600001 (DACA 等非法移民的保护) ，600002/3//4/5还没有review