狗确认不是随机裁员！

小白兔兔 发表于 2023-01-23 19:02:50
十几年的L4/L5既没有身份之忧，也很有可能已经财务自由

那正好-他们也比较不怕被裁，dat algo works

小白兔兔 发表于 2023-1-24 11:02
十几年的L4/L5既没有身份之忧，也很有可能已经财务自由

弱弱地问一下这财务自由一般最低是多少？

CNBC 的报道PICHAI在TOWN HALL meeting 说了点裁员的decision making process，绝对不是随机的：

After moving the conversation to job cuts, Pichai offered some explanation for how he and the executive team made their decisions.

Pichai said he consulted with the founders and controlling shareholders, Sergey Brin and Larry Page, as well as the board of directors.

Pichai said 2021 marked “one of the strongest years we’ve ever had in the history of the company,” with 41% revenue growth. Google increased head count to match that expansion, and Pichai said the company was assuming growth would persist.

“In that context, we made a set of decisions that might have been right if the trends continued,” he said. “You have to remember if the trend had continued and we had not hired to keep pace, we would fall behind in many areas as a company.”

Executives said 750 senior leaders were involved in the process, adding it took a few weeks to determine who would be laid off.

“We have over 30,000 managers at Google and to consult with all of them would have made this an open process where it would have taken additional weeks or even months to come to a decision,” said Fiona Cicconi, Google’s chief people officer, at the meeting. “We wanted to get certainty sooner.”

Regarding the criteria for cuts, Cicconi said execs looked at areas where the work was necessary, but the company had too many people as well as places where the work itself wasn’t critical. Cicconi said the company considered “skill set, time in role where experience or relationships are relevant and matter, productivity indicators like sales quotas and performance history.”

Pichai indicated there would be executive compensation cuts but provided limited details. He said all senior vice presidents “will see a very significant reduction in their annual bonus” this year.

“The more senior you are, the more your compensation is tied to performance,” he said. “You can reduce your equity grants if performance is not great.”

Before the job cuts, Google had made the decision to pay out 80% of bonuses this month with the rest expected in March or April. In prior years, the full bonus was paid in January.

虽然但是 哪家裁员都不可能随机裁吧 多少都和project 盈利，performance，tenure有关

夏日柠檬红茶 发表于 2023-1-23 21:54
"比如说好十几年了还只有L4， L5的那种" —— 不想上去是怕压力太大吗

怕技术荒废了。。。

有没有可能其他公司早就在深潭里了，而狗是科技公司最后的一块遮羞布？

随机裁员是为了避免法律纠纷

要不然 你用什么理由裁员都容易惹上官司

LSC_ 发表于 2023-1-23 18:56
我觉得有脑子的公司都不会裁员采用随机算法来决定吧？合乎逻辑的做法肯定是留下牛逼能干的，裁掉摸鱼和实力 ...

合乎逻辑但是不好听的真实是，
经理会留下特能干的20%，舔狗 50%， 还有嫡系10%， 剩下的滚蛋

匿名用户 发表于 2023-01-24 09:08:39
合乎逻辑但是不好听的真实是，
经理会留下特能干的20%，舔狗 50%， 还有嫡系10%， 剩下的滚蛋

这次裁员是最顶端的人做的决策，估计是按算法出来的。这些svp根本不认识裁掉的人，遑论判断谁能干谁舔狗了

匿名用户 发表于 2023-01-23 18:45:48
现在看来很多
1. 在狗呆的年数很高，
2. 职业进展很少（在一个level呆了很多年）

可是我知道的人中有16.5年的staff被裁，这种算什么呢？