本帖最后由 zach 于 2012-2-7 20:34 编辑
方舟子本人的视频解释。这已经是他第n次回应了。希望感兴趣的人去看看。
http://www.tudou.com/playlist/p/l14930986.html/?union_id=100400_141111_02_01
上面这个视频前10min解释清楚了此事的来龙去脉,后10min解释了剽窃问题,包括论文、科普文章。感兴趣的可以去看看,对我们自己遵守学术规范是有好处的。
附lz贴的这封回信的起源。lz贴的回信指的是回复方舟子的第二封信,见下。可见他被误导或者阅读不过关。方说的是
我不知道你是根据什么说“方博士的文章实际90%(或该比例左右)是我的作品”,这个不公平的指控作为抹黑我的行动的一部分被张贴到了许多中文网站上。我的文章包括11个段落,只有5个段落是与源自你的文章的科学判定标准有关。即使这5个段落是直接从你的文章翻译的而没有别的内容(这是不符合事实的),那也只是我的文章的大约50%。
方舟子本人第一次回应:
方舟子回应Root-Bernstein博士的“剽窃”指控
http://www-lla9ax.xys.org/xys/netters/Fang-Zhouzi/blog/root.txt
按:8月4日我给指控我“剽窃”的“母校教授Root-Bernstein”(我不认识他,从未上过他的课或见过他)回了一封信。这封信本不打算公开。但Root-Bernstein博士将它转给“方学家”公开,“方学家”将其内容和Root-Bernstein博士的信通过有意误译的方法歪曲。所以还是在这里公开好了。我的导师Zachary Burton博士认为我的这个答复“合理而审慎”。
尊敬的Root-Bernstein博士,
1995年我还是密歇根州立大学一名研究生时,我在一个叫alt.chinese.text的网上论坛张贴了一篇短文,当时在中国留学生中有一场关于伪科学的辩论。那篇短文是对一个网上讨论的一个非正式的、随意的跟帖,不是学术论文或作业。它部分地复述了你的文章中的科学判断标准。我把这些科学标准说成是“科学哲学界的共识”,并给出自己的例子解释它。我后来改写了这篇短文,在1999年我的一本书中正式出版,并注明来源为“根据Root-Bernstein的归纳”。2007年在我的另一本书中这些标准又被提及时,我给出文献出处为"On Defining a Scientific Theory: Creationism Considered, Robert Root-Bernstein, Science and Creationism, Oxford University Press, 1984"(如果没有这一文献出处,我不相信肖传国——这位外科医生由于我揭露了其不正当医疗行为而雇人用辣椒水和锤子袭击我——的支持者能在16年后追踪到文献来源并向你和密歇根州立大学校方举报“剽窃”。在这一答复中我删掉了四名肖传国支持者的电子邮址。)
我从未把那些标准说成是我自己的原创思想,也从未复制你的措辞。而且它正式出版时,已注明了引用出处和文献来源。因此根据你不同意但公认的定义,我不认为它构成剽窃或侵犯版权。
但是在最初的网帖中我没有明确地提及你的名字是不妥的,我为此道歉。
诚挚的,方是民
Dear Dr. Root-Bernstein,
In 1995 when I was a graduate student at MSU, I posted a short writing to an online forum called alt.chinese.text when there was a debate about pseudoscience among oversea Chinese students. It was an informal, casual follow-up to a discussion thread, not an academic paper or assignment. Part of it paraphrased the criteria of science from your article. I presented the criteria of science as "consensus in philosophy of science" and gave my own examples to explain it. This writing was revised and formally published in one of my books in 1999, and it cited the source as “According to the summary by Root-Bernstein”, and when the criteria were mentioned again in another book of mine in 2007, it gave reference as "On Defining a Scientific Theory: Creationism Considered, Robert Root-Bernstein, Science and Creationism, Oxford University Press, 1984".(Without this reference, I don't believe the supporters of Xiao Chuanguo, the surgeon who hired assailants to attack me using pepper spray and hammer after I exposed his malpractice, could track down the source and report the "plagiarism" to you and MSU administration 16 years later. I have deleted email addresses of four Xiao's supporters in this reply)I never presented the criteria as my own original idea, nor did I copy your wordings. And when it's formally published, the source had been credited and cited. Therefore I don't think it consists of plagiarism or copyright infringement according to the common accepted definitions with which you disagree.
But it's inappropriate not to explicitly credit you in my original posting, and I apologize for it.Sincerely,
Shi-min Fang(XYS20110809)
方舟子第二封信:
http://www.xys.org/forum/db/9/114/227.html
8月12日我又给Root-Bernstein博士写了一封信,反驳其“方博士的文章实际90%左右是我的作品”的指控。从那以后我未再见到Root-Bernstein博士对此有任何回应,事情算过去了。我本不想公开此信,但现在北大法学院教授贺卫方加盟郭国松、孙海峰,炒作“方舟子剽窃美国教授”一事,我还是公开吧。
尊敬的Root-Bernstein博士, 我不知道你是根据什么说“方博士的文章实际90%(或该比例左右)是我的作品”,这个不公平的指控作为抹黑我的行动的一部分被张贴到了许多中文网站上。我的文章包括11个段落,只有5个段落是与源自你的文章的科学判定标准有关。即使这5个段落是直接从你的文章翻译的而没有别的内容(这是不符合事实的),那也只是我的文章的大约50%。 我已与中国学术不端行为作战了11年,我确信我知道怎么认定一个剽窃事例。我已咨询了两名知识产权方面的中国律师,他们都不认为我的文章侵犯了你的版权。 我不想与那些已骚扰我、我的家人、导师、同学和朋友多年的人交流(我再次从这个邮件列表中删掉他们的邮址)。你上次把他们放回邮件列表时,我就知道这种讨论是不会有结果的。我将不会再做出任何回应。如果你坚持要把讨论继续下去,能否把我的名字从邮件列表中删除?谢谢。 诚挚的, 方舟子 Dear Dr. Root-Bernstein, I don’t know how you got the idea that “Dr. Fang's article is essentially 90% (or somewhere around that percentage) my work”, and this unfair charge has been posted on many Chinese Web sites as part of public smear campaign against me. My article contains 11 paragraphs, and only 5 paragraphs are about criteria of science from your article. Even if these 5 paragraphs were directly translated from your article and contained nothing else (which is not true), that would be only about 50% of my article. I have been fighting against academic misconducts in China for eleven years, and I am confident that I know how to determine a plagiarism case. I have consulted two Chinese lawyers specified at intellectual property, and none of them thinks my article infringe your copyright. I don't want to communicate with those persons who have harassed me, my family, mentors, classmates and friends for years (I have to delete their email addresses from the list again). As soon as you put them back to the list, I knew this type of discussion would lead us nowhere. I will not provide any further responses. If you insist keeping the discussion going, can you please kindly remove my name from the list? Thank you. Sincerely, Shi-min Fang |