fb选组千万不要去marketplace

以前叫marketplace，现在是commerce org
整体非常非常糟糕：代码质量就是屎，经常reorg，产品direction不明确，非常多XFN（开会），管理层混乱
我摘抄一下blind上的讨论吧：
I have never seen an org as poorly run as Marketplace, not just at Facebook but in my roles at other FAANG. After spending 2 years here, I am done and will be moving away after next PSC. Here is a small selection of problems, the actual list would be much bigger.

1) No Vision - there is zero vision for Marketplace, only metrics. First it was MLI, then it was transactions. The entire org works like a growth team to pump these metrics at any cost. There is no vision or care for customer needs and how to build a sustainable product.

2) Bad Leadership: beyond having no vision, the leadership doesn’t know how to build a well functioning team. A small example of this is the reorg from last week. They scheduled a 30 minute Q&A for the entire org of hundreds of people to talk about the reorg. The best part is they did not even take any advance questions. They answered a total of 2 questions from the crowd, the rest were pre-populated questions from leads. WTF is the Q&A even for if you are not going to take questions from on-the-ground people. After announcing the changes on the zoom call, they immediately pivoted to talking about how goals are not changing and new planning timelines. It was so tone deaf and clearly showed that they don’t care about the people at all.

3) Constant Reorgs: I lost count of the number of Reorgs. Just one year ago they split the org into shops and local using some bad reasons. They are now using worse reasons to go back to the old structure without admitting fault. There is zero accountability, just chaos. Everyone is looking to grow their headcount and nothing else.

4) Bad Product: there are so many scams and low quality listings, but no one cares. There is so much internal feedback that goes unacknowledged and straight up ignored. Some of the listing images look worse than what you can find on porn sites.

5) Poor strategy: they tried to build a shop tab which went nowhere. Now they want to use the traffic on marketplace to shove shops listings on everyone for pennies worth of transactions. Never mind that users actually come to marketplace for local listings. Obviously none of this is based in any strategy other than “Marketplace gets users, so let’s flood the tab with shipped listings”

Just like majority orgs in Facebook

匿名者 发表于 2021-11-29 03:43
这个org 的领导水平相当不咋地，擅长reorg , 底下I C 卷的厉害， 尤其是ranking 组，能不去就不去吧，除非 ...

. 1point 3 acresMarketplace 多久前就不少FB的人吐槽垃圾混乱，需要避开这个坑。
但比较迷的是，早个两三年有加入Marketplace的3年从3升到6的。。跟org太混乱有关系吗？
说道这个想起了牛逼闪闪的“课代表”，离职前连发好几个post介绍自己的工作然后夸marketplace好，这是也是狗了。。

PS：坑之大者，害人害己，古往今来坑层出不穷，如土坑、沙坑，但此乃翔坑。。。

能不能另开个贴介绍一下meta哪些组特别卷、哪些特别适合ladder climb、哪些特别躺平

Fb确实不太行，对E5之前的工程师还可以升职。对老年工程师就只剩痛苦了

谢谢分享！！

我的天啊，下个暑假intern的组就是marketpace (commerce org)，不知道这对intern是否有啥影响。求懂的大佬指点指点。

匿名用户 发表于 2021-11-28 08:39:42
我的天啊，下个暑假intern的组就是marketpace (commerce org)，不知道这对intern是否有啥影响。求懂的大佬指点指点。

intern没问题的，这种组intern好出代码

这是真的吗，我刚入职，现在在选组，其中最心仪的一个组就是commerce org下做shop的

感谢楼主分享，请问楼主说的是menlo park的FB Apps Commerce Intelligence and Quality组嘛

嗯，说的挺靠谱的，和我一个朋友说的一样，呵呵，这种org在FB不少见其实。

想知道fb的enterprise组怎么样？