OPT延长至24个月政策急需你的支持评论 否则很可能失败！！！

提醒大家，每人可以重复评论！！如果实在懒得写，从论坛上找几个论点拼凑一下加上一句I strongly support this new OPT policy也行的！！大家不要因为一念之差到时候后悔莫及！

闲庭听雨 发表于 2015-11-9 02:28
国际学生过来大把大把地交着学费，本来就是对美国经济的巨大贡献，如果废止OPT势必会打击国际学生的积极性 ...

楼上说的就是我的第一条论点啊，但要英文写啊

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我写的comment：

It is unjust, shortsighted and against the interest of American people to deprive international students' legal right to work in US after graduation simply because they are not citizens. In addition, the belief that minimum wages cannot get raised because there are too many international students are also unreasonable and against fact. I am strongly convinced that allowing international students to prosper in the US would bring in far more jobs than the number saved by driving them out.

International students are making huge contributions to our country. Immigrant-founded Fortune 500 companies employed 3.6 million workers around the world in 2011 and were responsible for more than $1.7 trillion in revenues in 2010, according to the Partnership For A New American Economy (http://www.renewoureconomy.org/sites/all/themes/pnae/img/new-american-fortune-500-june-2011.pdf). Most international students work in scientific and technology, and many of them are among the best in their fields. STEM are fields critical for the US to ace at in order to continue its leadership in the world. Each year, h1b holders pay more than 27%, and often more than 30% of their salary to the federal, and even more to the federal and the state. This money is used in increasing the medical and other welfare of American people.

International students have nearly nothing to do with the minimum wage. Almost all international students obtain their OPT in order to get an H1B visa, which requires the worker to meet a minimum salary standard that is far higher than the minimum wage level. For example, the minimum hourly pay standard for H1b holder is $24.16 in Albany, NY, and NY state has a minimum wage limit of $9.00. This is not even near! In fact, an international student needs about 3 times the salary of the minimum pay to stay in the US, and the payment is usually far higher than this because they usually work on comparatively rewarding positions like software engineer/developer.

On top of this, international students have very little responsibility for the current salary level in software and Internet industry. I am not an economist, but I work in the computer industry. My observation is that the main obstacle of a faster salary rise in this industry is outsourcing, not international students. Programmers who are educated outside America and mostly work outside America earn surprisingly low wages: some earn less than $10,000 per year and they can do the same thing (although usually in lower quality) American programmers do! They are the ones who steal our jobs and bring down our salary. What about international students? If they achieved a bachelor or master’s degree in the US, usually they have spent more than $100,000 in education. It is not reasonable to assume that they could accept low pay, given that they have already invested so much. International students are by no means cheap labor.

Rejecting international students would gain us a short-term, illusive relief that there might be temporarily fewer competitors in the job market. However, this short-term satisfaction would be at the cost of long-term benefits of American people and would cause the US to lose ground to the countries that welcome these students. STEM students go back to their country or go to other welcoming countries if rejected by the US. They will devote to scientific research, entrepreneurship, public policy and other fields that empower and create jobs for the country they serve for. Brain is power and it is a great loss to drive our highly educated brains to other countries. By ousting their talents America is creating the next Alibaba, not the next facebook!

What is worse, I believe the American salary level would be severely BROUGHT DOWN rather than driven up by this decision. On the contrary, let them stay will INCREASE not decrease jobs. Companies ship the jobs to India, China and many other countries with lower pay if they cannot hire enough high quality workers in the US, or if the cost of hiring a US worker is too high. On top of this, international students create more jobs by opening companies. According to Kauffman foundation, Immigrants were almost twice as likely to start businesses in 2012 as native-born Americans, and bout one-quarter of the engineering and technology companies started in the United States between 2006–2012 had at least one key founder who was an immigrant. Closing the door is not a good way to preserve jobs and increase wages. It will only cause more outsourcing and destroy our tech industry, and then our economy. Open the door and welcome talents all over the world! We will gain far more than we lose.

Admitted, international students’ participation in the job market itself would increase competition in the short term. You may find it harder to get into Google or Facebook because there are more talented people in the pool. However, if we reject them simply because of this, we should not educate our children at all – every college graduate enters the job market to increase competition. In the long term, competition increases efficiency, accelerates development and benefits us all. Do not let irrational fear of competition ruin our true interest.

American people are wise enough not to harm our long-term benefits by irrational fear and temporary, illusive satisfactions. International students are helping America grow, and are improving the welfare of American people. Losing them, on the other hand, will benefit our competitors and harm US interest. I strongly believe we should pass this proposal and pass more bills in the congress that could make it easier for the international students to stay.

DHS Docket No. ICEB-2015-0002。 请自由地取用论点和论据。不需要像我写这么长，我只是觉得应该有一些比较长的回复，但我们也要注意数量，多水！反对方也没有多少过硬的论据，无非宣泄情绪而已。

yksor90 发表于 2015-11-9 02:32
楼上说的就是我的第一条论点啊，但要英文写啊

谢谢指正！！！我就是利用了你的几个论点刚刚又去评论了一条！
I strongly SUPPORT this new OPT policy, because these who are opposing this policy did not bring up valid points and I do not want these comments cause problems for such a great policy.

Firstly, foreign students working on OPT PAY TAX and they help local economies. Without foreign students, US universities and research institutions will face huge loss.Those property renting, food service and other industries will face huge loss.

Secondly, here is no guarantee how long it will take and how much it will cost to train all US students  to fully compensate loss of foreign students. Without this policy, numerous companies in the United States will face serious shortage of STEM workers suddenly and tremendous loss.

Therefore, I highly support this new policy and really hope this could be APPROVED!!!!

所以如果大家有的真的很忙没时间写得，完全可以从大家的很好的论点里选几条，稍作改动，加上一句I highly support this new policy and really hope this could be APPROVED!!!! 真的用不了你几分钟的！！我也是常年潜水不屑留言的，但是这一次真的需要我们每个人的努力！！不要因为一念之差到时候后悔莫及！

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闲庭听雨 发表于 2015-11-9 02:43
谢谢指正！！！我就是利用了你的几个论点刚刚又去评论了一条！
I strongly SUPPORT this new OPT policy ...

PS: 已经是这两天刷的第五条了，大家加油！提醒大家名字也可以编的，害怕重复无效可以编名字，补上最新这次的tracking number:1jz-8m56-o0x0

此外，让我非常震惊的一点是，现在的comment里几乎见不到烙印的身影。印度人在哪里让我看到你们的双手...大家平时有没有逛烙印论坛的，给几个地址，我们去notify them to fight together.

Comment Tracking Number: 1jz-8m56-cdew
开头：强烈支持OPT-extension
我的论点是：
1. 国际学生给high tech companies and United States 带来了巨大的经济利益，高科技对STEM area Engineer目前依旧是供不应求。
2. 美国在STEM领域强于欧洲的原因（有点拍马屁之嫌 = =  forgive me 我大天朝肯定是最威武的 啊哈哈哈哈哈)就是因为美国对International Students的移民更加宽容，所以这么多优秀的人才才能给美国的科技公司做出贡献。
结尾：呼应开头 再次强烈建议OPT-extension 24个月实施

PS：如何分享本帖子到朋友圈。。。研究了一下尚未发现咋么办