烙印这样看我们

刚看到一个烙印的帖子，这样评价我们
I’m Indian American and grew up in a city in the US that was mostly East Asian. First, both Indian and Chinese immigrants have been very successful by any measure. Indian Americans have the highest per capita income of any ethnic group in the US at $122,026 (2016). Taiwanese are at $90,221 and Chinese overall (including Taiwanese) are at $73,788. In comparison the average white household is only at $61,349 so both groups are very successful.

That said, I think overall Indians have done a better job at succeeding in the US and reaching higher levels in business, politics, and media. As others have noted there have been two Indian American governors in the mainland US and at least 5 members of Congress right now. Just off the top of my head I can think of several others who have had high level positions in government such as Preet Bharara. In contrast outside of Hawaii East Asians have not done so well politically. There are only 2 Taiwanese and 1 Chinese member of Congress right now and Gary Locke was the only non Hawaii governor of Chinese descent.

Likewise, there are several CEOS of Indian descent including at Google, Microsoft, Mastercard, Adobe, and Pepsi. United and Citibank also in the past had Indian CEO’s as did McKinsey. In contrast, I can only think of a couple prominent East Asian business leaders such as the ex founder of Yahoo who is no longer even CEO of that company.

Even in media I’ve seen in recent years a lot more South Asian American actors and comics such as Mindy Kalang and Hasan Minhaj. And these actors seem to break out of regular stereotypes whereas East Asian actors in the US get type cast too much.

I think Indians benefit from moving to the US speaking fluent English and having been educated in English back in India. They also are more accustomed to western society. When I was in school the East Asian kids had parents who just told them to memorize, do well on tests and get into Harvard. That was everything to them. I think South Asians understand that in the US sometimes it’s better to have average academic credentials but be a risk taker and more outgoing. You need to be able to manipulate people and stand up for yourself to succeed in the US. Too many East Asians think they can just be the worker bee their entire life, this is a big cause of the bamboo ceiling.

印度职业移民占比很高，中国反而政治庇护和早期福广亲属移民众多，教育程度相比较低，大部分人都是现金收入为主，导致这个收入统计上肯定差距很大。 华裔也出了很多成功的企业owner，近期火热的华人创建的科技公司zoom, doordash，tiktok都是标杆，说华人专注于workbee有失公允，相反这些印度CEO们无非是高级职业经理人。

说到底烙印的人才都出国了。
中国出国的worker bee大多是技术人才，会来事有真正经商头脑的人才都在国内。

largely agree，还有一点我觉得很重要的是，华裔想在美国获得政治意义上的成功，必须跟中国切割得非常干净（这就是为什么越来越多的老台湾移民自称Taiwanese American，绝口不提chinese这个identity），因为中美实质上已经是敌对关系了。。而印度裔没有这样的困扰

I think there’s some truth in it, like standing up for yourself and fitting in as part of the western society. But also I also believe that in general, East Asian countries have most been advancing so much in both economics and international politics that many East Asians feel they have many choices, just like early Japanese and Taiwanese immigrants, they didn’t have to cut their ties so much in order to “fit in”, many have returned and made a successful living back in their homeland. India as a country however is still very much backward in any regard, forcing American Indians to take the only good choice they have in front of them.

感觉挺有道理啊

说得挺客气了

494383005 发表于 2023-02-12 15:48:46
感觉挺有道理啊

感觉中国最牛逼的那一部分人很多在国内了我们瞧不起烙印，还是因为母国比他们强吧？

匿名用户 发表于 2023-02-12 15:54:19
说得挺客气了

烙印素质还可以啊，哈哈

说得比较有道理。

kohakugawa 发表于 2023-02-12 15:39:58
I think there’s some truth in it, like standing up for yourself and fitting in as part of the wester

Well matter fact India is catching up and will become the economic powerhouse in the upcoming years benefited from global manufacutring and supply chain migration. The reason why Eastern Asian countries gained prosperity in the last decades are mainly benefited from the relationship with Western developed country, like the greatest country in the human being, the United States of America.

印度人在别国那么努力，也是被逼的，毕竟回国的生活落差实在太大
其实类似的还有浙江人特别是温州人，做生意那么积极努力，有这经商的传统，最一开始还不就是因为老家资源过于匮乏，没法像东北地区那样可以借助资源，也得不到政府很大的重视，想有好生活只能靠自己开动小脑筋

我自己就是浙江人啊，我们那边的父辈早年都这么说

chrislaw1988 发表于 2023-02-12 16:39:12
Well matter fact India is catching up and will become the economic powerhouse in the upcoming years

感觉blind的烙印在看这个帖子，估计很快他们就有人来回复