PWD 招聘过程

大家好。我是新人， 公司支持办理EB3，我自己找律师。 因为希望能更快的提交I140，律师帮我再CA JOB那个政府的官网 上帮我登出了招聘信息，算作第一种广告。 我在4月27日提交的PWD申请，目前还没被批下来这个数字，所以打广告的时候，没有标出具体工资，这个方式可以随时加这个工资数字而且不收费。。。律师的说法是，这个先在网上PO着，有人投简历就面试，之后PWD下来了再报纸杂志打广告。
那么问题来了。 面试所需要至少一个月，是指最后一个打广告完了最少一个月，还是说从第一份广告打完就可以开始算时间了。PERM官网的说法是，至少提交I140前一个月。嗯希望有经验的哥哥姐姐指教一下~~~~顺便提一下我是会计。。

补充内容：我发现大家都是用PWD打广告的。用中文查都是这样说的。地里的同学也貌似都是这样做的。但是当我用英文搜索关键词比如“ PERM, IS PWD REQUIRED TO PUT IN ADVERTISING" 一类的。 英文版全部都是说，在打广告阶段不用放，比如什么报纸啦，杂志，网站什么的。只有在 internal company advertisement, 也就是楼上说的NOTICE OF FILING期间要打出来。包括我自己的律师也是这么说的。所以我现在和我的律师产生了冲突。 请看一下截取内容来自不同的网站。
“The Content of Job Ads

Job advertisements do not need to include every minute detail regarding the position. However, they must be sufficiently thorough, including the following information:

    Employer’s name and contact information
    Physical address of the site of employment, and address where applicants should send resumes, which may be an e-mail address or P.O. Box
    Description of the job with sufficient detail (i.e. the same description used in the prevailing wage determination)

Advertisements do not have to list the wage offered, but if an employer does list compensation, the wage cannot be lower than the prevailing wage determination.

Further, advertisements shouldn’t contain job requirements not normally required for the position (unless there is a demonstrated business need), and likewise cannot contain wages or terms of employment that are less favorable than those being offered to the prospective alien employee.”
再来一发

“You are required to place a job ad in 2 Sunday editions of a local newspaper with wide circulation in the area of intended employment. So, if the position will take place in Miami, your ad should be in the Miami Herald or a paper with similar recognition.

If the position is in a rural area which does not have a Sunday edition, the employer should use the newspaper that has the widest circulation.

The PERM ad requirements state that the ad must include:

    Your business name
    Instructions detailing where applications and resumes should be sent
    A general overview of the position that gives potential applicants a good idea of what is entailed
    Possible mitigating factors such as job location and/or travel percentages

3. Internal (in-house) Job Posting

Also known as a notice of filing (NOF), an internal job posting should be posted for 10 consecutive business days on your company’s physical premises. If it’s a union position, proper notice must be given to the representative.

The NOF needs to include very specific language that alerts your current employees that you are in the process of obtaining a PERM Labor Certification. This must also give them the opportunity to submit documentary evidence that has a bearing on the application.

According to the regulations, it must contain the following information:

    business name and location
    general job description
    wages and other compensation
    your contact information including an address to send resumes”
再来一发来自DOL 的PERM Q& A
“Question： Does the offered wage need to be included in the advertisements?
No, the offered wage does not need to be included in the advertisement, but if a wage rate is included, it can not be lower than the prevailing wage rate."
"Question: Where and when does the employer obtain prevailing wage information？
Prior to filing the Application for Permanent Employment Certification, ETA Form 9089, the employer must request a prevailing wage determination from the State Workforce Agency( SWA) having jurisdiction over the proposed area of intended employment. The employer is required to include on the ETA Form 9089 the SWA provided information: the prevailing wage, the prevailing wage tracking number( if applicable)，the SOC/O* NET(OES) code, the occupation title, the skill level, the wage source, the determination date, and the expiration date"
所以JOB AD是可以在等待PWD期间发的。

是要从你最后一个广告做完之后开始算30天后才能提交PERM，不过这30天你可以用来面试~~I-140是PERM批准之后才能提交的，楼主漏了PERM这个环节了~~
PWD和广告可以一起做，但是有风险，因为PWD不一定什么时候能出来，出来之后还要做一个广告叫做Notice of filing~~也就是说你要在PWD出来结果之后，post notice of filing for 10 business days，再等30天，基本就是45天了，才能提交PERM，而这个时候如果你做的第一个广告已经距离提交PERM的时间超过180天了，那么这个广告就得重新做，然后再等30天···所以很多律师和公司不同意PWD和广告一起做，有可能又要花更多的钱又浪费时间~~

我发现大家都是用PWD打广告的。用中文查都是这样说的。地里的同学也貌似都是这样做的。但是当我用英文搜索关键词比如“ PERM, IS PWD REQUIRED TO PUT IN ADVERTISING" 一类的。 英文版全部都是说，在打广告阶段不用放，比如什么报纸啦，杂志，网站什么的。只有在 internal company advertisement, 也就是楼上说的NOTICE OF FILING期间要打出来。包括我自己的律师也是这么说的。所以我现在和我的律师产生了冲突。 请看一下截取内容来自不同的网站。
“The Content of Job Ads

Job advertisements do not need to include every minute detail regarding the position. However, they must be sufficiently thorough, including the following information:

    Employer’s name and contact information
    Physical address of the site of employment, and address where applicants should send resumes, which may be an e-mail address or P.O. Box
    Description of the job with sufficient detail (i.e. the same description used in the prevailing wage determination)

Advertisements do not have to list the wage offered, but if an employer does list compensation, the wage cannot be lower than the prevailing wage determination.

Further, advertisements shouldn’t contain job requirements not normally required for the position (unless there is a demonstrated business need), and likewise cannot contain wages or terms of employment that are less favorable than those being offered to the prospective alien employee.”
再来一发

“You are required to place a job ad in 2 Sunday editions of a local newspaper with wide circulation in the area of intended employment. So, if the position will take place in Miami, your ad should be in the Miami Herald or a paper with similar recognition.

If the position is in a rural area which does not have a Sunday edition, the employer should use the newspaper that has the widest circulation.

The PERM ad requirements state that the ad must include:

    Your business name
    Instructions detailing where applications and resumes should be sent
    A general overview of the position that gives potential applicants a good idea of what is entailed
    Possible mitigating factors such as job location and/or travel percentages

3. Internal (in-house) Job Posting

Also known as a notice of filing (NOF), an internal job posting should be posted for 10 consecutive business days on your company’s physical premises. If it’s a union position, proper notice must be given to the representative.

The NOF needs to include very specific language that alerts your current employees that you are in the process of obtaining a PERM Labor Certification. This must also give them the opportunity to submit documentary evidence that has a bearing on the application.

According to the regulations, it must contain the following information:

    business name and location
    general job description
    wages and other compensation
    your contact information including an address to send resumes”
再来一发来自DOL 的PERM Q& A
“Question： Does the offered wage need to be included in the advertisements?
No, the offered wage does not need to be included in the advertisement, but if a wage rate is included, it can not be lower than the prevailing wage rate."
"Question: Where and when does the employer obtain prevailing wage information？
Prior to filing the Application for Permanent Employment Certification, ETA Form 9089, the employer must request a prevailing wage determination from the State Workforce Agency( SWA) having jurisdiction over the proposed area of intended employment. The employer is required to include on the ETA Form 9089 the SWA provided information: the prevailing wage, the prevailing wage tracking number( if applicable)，the SOC/O* NET(OES) code, the occupation title, the skill level, the wage source, the determination date, and the expiration date"
所以JOB AD是可以在等待PWD期间发的。

楼主好，我也是4月份提交的PWD. 可是要等PWD 的结果才能打广告。

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楼主找的华人律师吗？边做广告边等wage的方法我找过3-4个美国律师都不愿意。

地里二狗王 发表于 2019-6-4 23:22
楼主找的华人律师吗？边做广告边等wage的方法我找过3-4个美国律师都不愿意。

是个华人律所，但是律师本人是美国人。我阅读了一下官网，没有说不然允许两个一起做。CONFUSED

同会计 地里会计办绿卡的太少了 关注关注

JoJoJMUK 发表于 2019/06/05 01:54:57


是个华人律所，但是律师本人是美国人。我阅读了一下官网，没有说不然允许两个一起做。CONFUSED

我也是。顺便说一下，我也是会计。祝你顺利！

补充内容 (2019-6-5 05:49):
然后因为我是等wage下来之后再做的广告。所以我们所有广告都是一起做的。总时长1个月。然后cooling period一个月。

fxppnm 发表于 2019-6-6 02:12
是要从你最后一个广告做完之后开始算30天后才能提交PERM，不过这30天你可以用来面试~~I-140是PERM批准之后 ...

谢谢，原来还有个NOTICE OF FILING。醉了。希望劳工部能办事快一点。毕竟这段时间也没政府SHUTDOWN扣预算。。。哈哈