讨论以后香港出生的EB/FB怎么算

justin 发表于 2020-7-15 00:46
香港人现在作为ROW肯定反S386，
但是等香港的排期被并入大陆以后，香港人可能就没有那么大的动力去反S38 ...

这也没实现抗印
香港在ROW的名额都通过SO给烙印了
讲抗印都不能聊以安慰了

so sad。。。

川普的 EO https://www.whitehouse.gov/presi ... kong-normalization/  里提到了'suspend' '(a)  section 103 of the Immigration Act of 1990 (8 U.S.C. 1152 note);'
section 103是'Sec.  103.  Treatment  of  Hong  Kong under  per country levels.'

SEC.   103. TREATMENT  OF  HONG  KONG  UNDER  PER  COUNTRY  LEVELS.   8 USC  1152 note. The  approval  referred  to in the first  sentence  of section  202(b) of the  Immigration  and  Nationality  Act shall  be  considered  to  have  been  granted,  effective  beginning  with  fiscal  year  1991, with  respect  to  Hong  Kong  as  a  separate  foreign  state,  and not as  a  colony  or  other  component  or dependent  area  of another  foreign  state,  except  that the total  number  of immigrant  visas  made  available  to natives of Hong Kong under  subsections  (a) and (b) of section  203 of such Act in  each  of  fiscal  years  1991, 1992, and  1993 may not exceed  10,000.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/ ... TUTE-104-Pg4978.pdf  的第8页，第二段


而上文中加粗的section  202 (b) of Immigration and Nationality Act来自 '8 U.S.C. 1152' 'Numerical limitations on individual foreign states.'

（ Immigration and Nationality Act (INA)和US Code 的对照： https://www.uscis.gov/legal-reso ... and-nationality-act  里的Title II Immigration 下面的INA 202 ）

(b) Rules for chargeability

Each independent country, self-governing dominion, mandated territory, and territory under the international trusteeship system of the United Nations, other than the United States and its outlying possessions, shall be treated as a separate foreign state for the purposes of a numerical level established under subsection (a)(2) when approved by the Secretary of State. All other inhabited lands shall be attributed to a foreign state specified by the Secretary of State. For the purposes of this chapter the foreign state to which an immigrant is chargeable shall be determined by birth within such foreign state except that ... 后面省略的这段主要是说配偶和孩子的，比如可以用配偶的出生地来排，感兴趣的可以参考下面这个链接。

上文里提到的'subsection (a)(2)'就是每个国家的7%限额。

(2) Per country levels for family-sponsored and employment-based immigrants
Subject to paragraphs (3), (4), and (5), the total number of immigrant visas made available to natives of any single foreign state or dependent area under subsections (a) and (b) of section 1153 of this title in any fiscal year may not exceed 7 percent (in the case of a single foreign state) or 2 percent (in the case of a dependent area) of the total number of such visas made available under such subsections in that fiscal year.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xh ... um=0&edition=prelim

只能说"感谢"川普。我以前就看看别人分享的经验和介绍。现在都要开始自己读法条啦。

JA900A 发表于 2020-7-15 15:04
我看 EO 里有一段

我猜是有影響, sec2a的
section 103 of the Immigration Act of 1990 (8 U.S.C. 1152 note);
這一條是要suspend

1152. Numerical limitations on individual foreign states
中的這個section
Treatment of Hong Kong Under Per Country Levels
Pub. L. 101–649, title I, §103, Nov. 29, 1990, 104 Stat. 4985 , provided that: "The approval referred to in the first sentence of section 202(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act [8 U.S.C. 1152(b)] shall be considered to have been granted, effective beginning with fiscal year 1991, with respect to Hong Kong as a separate foreign state, and not as a colony or other component or dependent area of another foreign state, except that the total number of immigrant visas made available to natives of Hong Kong under subsections (a) and (b) of section 203 of such Act [8 U.S.C. 1153(a), (b)] in each of fiscal years 1991, 1992, and 1993 may not exceed 10,000."

[Section 103 of Pub. L. 101–649 effective Nov. 29, 1990, and (unless otherwise provided) applicable to fiscal year 1991, see section 161(b) of Pub. L. 101–649, set out as an Effective Date of 1990 Amendment note under section 1101 of this title.]

michaelnyc 发表于 2020-07-15 00:12:46
川普的 EO https://www.whitehouse.gov/presi ... kong-normalization/  里提到了'suspend' '(a)  section 103 of

看来合并大陆排期没跑了

其实最需要担心的不是排期合并，而是国会现在推动的 “给香港人临时绿卡”的那个法案。

如果通过的话，几十万上百万的香港人就会有身份，那么他们的绿卡从哪里来？肯定是从中国的FB/EB里面来...参考89年事件血卡事件....那时候就会有一批香港人插队，大陆人绿卡基本凉了

justin 发表于 2020-07-14 23:38:48
如果发了血卡，对今天有PD的人就有影响，因为接下来每年的名额都被减了。

是的，血卡才是威胁最大的.....不是什么pd....

JA900A 发表于 2020-07-15 00:20:15
看来合并大陆排期没跑了

最恶心的不是排期，而是血卡问题...这会吃点几十万甚至上百万的中国绿卡

dashizi 发表于 2020-07-15 04:34:03
你控制得了这个EO么？甚至两周前我说这事儿时候都是多么的没人信，多少人喷我，现在一切都发生了，全都跑去看法条了。如果早先都能预见现在这些事情，半年前到一年前对待港人观点会不会改变一些？

的确，很多中国人就是小人心态，见不得别人好。等血卡政策下来，他们全傻眼，现在美英两国都在立法 给几十万上百万的香港人永久居留权，那么这些绿卡名额从哪里来？还不是中国人的绿卡份额？

补充内容 (2020-7-15 05:52):
让子弹飞一会，我有预感，未来 血卡事件一定会成为地里的头条热搜，就跟S386一样

dashizi 发表于 2020-07-15 04:34:03
你控制得了这个EO么？甚至两周前我说这事儿时候都是多么的没人信，多少人喷我，现在一切都发生了，全都跑去看法条了。如果早先都能预见现在这些事情，半年前到一年前对待港人观点会不会改变一些？

没懂，对待港人啥观点？