这个HOA规定奇葩吗

最近准备买个Condo，计划头2-3年自主，后边出租。年度财务budget没有提供， 但今天拿到HOA by-law文件了。看到一些HOA条款，心里很忐忑，不知道是不是Condo都这样。

钥匙，HOA要留一把，感觉和租房一样呢
16.        The Board, or its designated agent, may retain a pass key to each Unit. No Unit Owner shall alter any lock or install a new lock or a knocker on any door of a Unit without the written consent of the Board. In case such consent is given, the Unit Owner shall provide the Board, or its designated agent, with an additional key pursuant to its right of access to the Unit.

没经允许，不许搬家具和其它东西进出，感觉很奇葩啊
19.        No moving of furniture or other items to or from Units will be undertaken without the express consent of the Board, and then only if pads are installed in the elevator and precautions are taken to safeguard doors, moldings and other common elements.

出租更麻烦，只需租6个月以上的，而且需要申请，房客信息和lease都要给HOA，更新lease也需要重来一遍，估计批不批准也得看HOA了。
23.        Unit Owners shall provide written notification to the Board of their intention to lease/rent their unit. Upon notification, the Unit Owner shall complete a Condominium Rental Information Form provided by the Board. The Condominium Rental Information Form shall be signed by the Unit Owner and the tenant, and returned to the Board office prior to the tenant occupying the unit. A copy of the Condominium Rental Information Form shall be attached to, and become a part of, the lease between the Unit Owner and tenant. The Board shall be notified of any changes in the information on the Condominium Rental Information Form as those changes occur. An additional Condominium Rental Infonnation Fonn shall be completed and returned to the Board for each new lease, a tenninated lease, and extended lease, and/or renewed leases. For sale/lease signs will not be displayed on the property or in unit windows or doors.

LEASING OF UNITS: If a Unit is being leased, the Unit Owner must provide to the Management Company the following information together with advance moving notice, fees, and deposit as above.

□        The name, phone number, mailing address and street address of the Unit Owner
□        The name of the Lessee(s) and, if different, the natural person who will be responsible for the Lessee's compliance with these rules
□        A copy of the lease, plus commencement & termination dates of lease
□        Signed Rules signature page

26.        Move-In Rules are as follows:
搬家要提前7天通知，还要交押金，只需上班时间搬。
SEVEN-DAY NOTICE REQUIRED: The Board or Management Company must be provided with a 7-business day written notice of the scheduled move date and time. Any special moving arrangement must be advised in writing 10 business days in advance. Failure to comply with these regulations will result in a fine.

MOVING TIMES: All moving must be scheduled and performed weekdays from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.

MOVE IN/OUT FEES & DEPOSITS: The Unit Owner(s) may be required to pay a fee and/or a refundable deposit. Checks made payable to the Condominium should be included with 7-day advance notification. The fee and deposit may be required for both the move-in and move-out.

REFUND OF MOVE IN/OUT DEPOSITS: All damage or destruction to the common areas caused by the move will be repaired by the Board at the Unit Owner's expense. Any hann to any occupants caused by the moving or caused by neglecting the required security precautions will be at the full expense of the moving Owner, regardless of the amount. If there are no damages, the full deposit will be refunded to the Unit Owner.

看了这些条款，开始质疑自己为什么要买了。不知道是因为我是小白，还是说这个HOA就是很奇葩。是不是和我买这个condo的目的不符合？

谢谢大家回复！


补充内容 (2021-04-24 11:25 +8:00):

找listing agent和卖家要HOA文件，拖拖拉拉。今天自己直接打电话给managment公司，发现给的是old的HOA文件，很多规则变了。只需租1年以上的，moving没有deposit，直接charge200$. 更令人担心的是，reserve analysis文件显示，接下来6年隔一年就有一个大的维修，换屋顶，修外墙啥的。Cost是现有reserve fund的近3倍。是不是个坑啊？

跟我之前租的condo差不多。
1.留钥匙那个是为了防止在业主不在家的情况下，发生一些紧急情况的时候，HOA没有办法很好的处理。
2. 租房的这个是为了要控制进出的人吧。如果你从住户的角度来看，你也不愿意周围的邻居都是Airbnb，然后住的人也不知根知底吧。
3. 关于搬家的条款，我的理解是为了让管理公司更好地安排。我之前住的condo，当有人要搬家的时候，都会在某一个时段，block一部电梯专门给他们用，途径的路径也会做好防止碰撞的工作等等。

当然啦，能不能接受要看楼主自己啦。

补充内容 (2021-04-22 13:51 +08:00):
搬家时间的规定是为了防止打扰其他住客吧，毕竟上班时间很多人都不在

挺正常的，你的条款我之前住的楼全都有，但实际要看你们HOA是否严格执行，我之前的楼就不太严格，实际执行起来除了租客必须6个月以上，其他条款只要没人complain基本不执行。

钥匙是保证紧急情况下HOA能进入，比如长时间漏水、火灾、臭味，我之前的condo也有相关规定，但实际上没有执行，从来没人来找我们要过钥匙。

没经允许不让大型家具搬运是防止对电梯和大楼走廊造成破坏。必须在工作时间搬家也是这个道理，一是楼里人少，不会对其他住户造成太大影响，二是大楼工作人员能够盯着，防止野蛮搬家。搬家提前申报是防止同一时间多人搬家，造成电梯不够用。估计mover还必须是有资质有保险的，万一对大楼造成损坏能赔偿。

出租6个月以上很正常了，住户肯定不希望邻居天天都是不一样的人。房客信息是保证出问题了大楼起码知道住的人是谁。Lease是你的私人条款不超越HOA规定的内容。

伊evaY 发表于 2021-04-22 06:29:18
歪个楼，请问一下哈，Condo 的HOA 是不是还包含管理 空调 和 屋顶？ 如果租金高，地段好，其实condo 也蛮省心的。而且也便宜一些。

如果是旧楼，那种全楼统一供暖的，HOA会包暖气，但新楼每户独立的central air是不包的。

每个月交的HOA有盈余会放到reserve fund帐户里，大楼公共设施需要修理时使用，你说的屋顶就是这个范畴。如果reserve fund够用就不需额外交钱，否则就有special assessment, 每户需要额外缴费。所以买房的时候一定要了解HOA的财政情况。

Condo的要求就是很多。lz要出租的话还要注意看看有没有rental cap

這也太奇葩了吧...
哪個區域的啊

楼主可以申请加入HOA，然后提议修改规则。

比我家hoa还奇葩。我已经发誓宁可租房也再也不买带hoa的了。

这是不是co-op

这种还是别买吧，属于房市火都有卖不出去风险的房子

钥匙规定很奇葩，不允许搬家具有点过了，一般是正式搬家才需要通知。其他都是standard吧。

我还看过HOA规定一定要18个月以上的lease呢。你这个6个月以上还算好的。