起诉H1B电子抽签abuse的官司输了，一人多抽合法

从去年第一轮抽完不久后就开始的诉讼（详情可见https://stoph1babuse.com/en-us/index），兜兜转转一年终于出了结果，可惜不是大家希望的结果（见https://www.pacermonitor.com/pub ... al_v_MAYORKAS_et_al）。
简而言之，法官认定在拥有真实有效offer的情况下一人多抽是合法的；而ICC利用虚假offer来增加中签率虽然是fraud，但不应由去重的方式来解决。

今年抽签注册数估计真要爆表了，之前代理律师预测会达到50万，大家猜猜会是多少？

这个官司必然是输的，一人多抽本来就是写在法律里的，法官只负责判断一个事情是否合法。要解决这个问题，需要重新立法。

cn_goku 发表于 2022-3-2 09:38
这个官司必然是输的，一人多抽本来就是写在法律里的，法官只负责判断一个事情是否合法。要解决这个问题，需 ...

对的，我们的论点其实不是一人多抽违法，而是应该按人头抽而不是按注册数抽，一人可以注册多份但是中签率应该和注册一份没区别，因为INA里规定的H1B的限额是人数。不过很遗憾法官没有采信这个观点。

贴个能直接看opinion的链接
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60020835/58/liu-v-mayorkas/

法庭的这段说理让我认为，如果USCIS以后改成一人一抽反而更容易被起诉违反INA
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The Registration Rule aligns with each of these requirements. The Rule does not allow more than 65,000 visas (85,000 with the exempt visas included), so it complies with § 1184(g)(1). The Applicants do not argue that the Rule allows USCIS to issue visas in any order other than the order in which it receives petitions. Nor could they, because all the Registration Rule does is require prospective employers to file a registration as a first step in the process. A registration is not a petition. The Registration Rule is “simply an antecedent procedural step to be eligible to file an H-1B cap petition.” ... So the Rule does not violate § 1184(g)(3). And the Rule does not violate § 1184(g)(7) because it makes no provision for USCIS to count an alien more than once against the H-1B cap.

True, more than one prospective employer may file a registration on behalf of a foreign national. But § 1184(g)(7)’s reference to “multiple petitions” already allows multiple employers to file petitions on behalf of the same alien. Indeed, in response to public comments, USCIS has long recognized that multiple petitions might exist for a single foreign national... And the Applicants admit the INA allows this...

Consider also that if an alien could have only one employer file a registration on his behalf, that would conflict with § 1184(g)(7). Such a rule would effectively bar any scenario where an alien could have more than one petition approved for him. Section 1184(g)(7) would become meaningless. That is why the Registration Rule allows for multiple registrations. And it adheres to the INA, because “one alien, one registration” is not in the statutory language. What matters is that USCIS only issued one visa to each alien before the Registration Rule, and it only issues one visa to each alien now.
Because the INA is clear, the Court need not move to Chevron step two. And because the Registration Rule does not violate the INA, it is not ultra vires.

本来按工资抽挺好，跟高考似的，分高者得。现在好了，别人可以考10次，你就只能考一次。

. check 1point3acres for more.今年最后一抽，看到这个判决结果，其实在意料之内。法官只负责判决行为是否违法，一人多抽本来就是合法的。

接下来是我的负能量rant：真正要改变这个现状只能推动立法，但是连H1B都没有的人哪来的投票权啊，难道等着USCIS主动解忧排难？他们只要把签证发出去就行了。你多上几年Day-1 CPT还能给美国学校创收，一边全职给资本家当社畜给IRS纳着税，一边给美国学校交着全职学费，American dream像一个胡萝卜挂在面前，皆大欢喜。也别说什么懂王了，毕竟按工资抽签的初衷可不是为了帮你把ICC挤出去的，你觉得在他们眼里中国码农和空降的印度码农有区别么。

可能唯一长期能解决的办法，就是跟考虑留学的人大肆宣传H1B抽不中的严峻形势。毕竟这么多留学生就是冲着OPT/H1B和美国的高工资来的，不然谁要来体验高学费和枪击案啊，更多人可能就出门左拐欧洲澳洲加拿大了。如果哪天留学的人少了，学校赚不到钱了，自然会去游说政府。

这还只是H1B，办绿卡的时候你会发现，美国的职业移民是少数，大多数都是亲属和绿卡lottery。

啊我真的我吐了

所以大家一起多抽几个就好了。

在那个州的法院判的啊？

意思是基本上h1b就名存实亡了 无语 难过….

笑死。逼着大家去找icc啊，求靠谱icc推荐吧那就。

"真实有效"

问题就是USCIS怎么知道真实有效。太失望了。

yalumana 发表于 2022-3-2 03:20
在那个州的法院判的啊？

DC的联邦法院

居然输了，移民局是不是想看看百万注册抽签盛况？