H1B没有抽中可以工作到哪一天

RT 求问 H1B没有抽中 OPT5.22就截止了。 学校留学生中心的说法是cap gap自动续到6.1 所以可以工作到6.1.
公司律师的说法是没有收到reject notice之前哪怕opt过期的都可以继续工作。
举例如果我一直到6.30才收到reject notice的话可以一直工作到6.30 哪怕我opt早已过期。

求问有没有过来人讲一下 到底哪种是合法的。 如果工作到reject notice的话之后再申请会不会被RFE啊？

谢谢大家！

补充内容 (2017-5-17 21:36):
更新update 我律师又变卦了！ 说只能到6.1 我只能说呵呵了！ 所以大家真的不要相信律师== 他们真的很很随意

补充内容 (2017-5-18 03:38):
也有疑问的同学请参考18楼和32楼的信息！ 感谢苏西Susie同学和neil41000同学！

luciferyue 发表于 2017-5-18 00:32
大感谢！！！ 请问first day of new fiscal year 是指10.1么？

我的DOS给了我这段话让我给律师看，他之前‘’看过‘’说不行，可能昨天才是真的‘看了’吧。

The Optional Practical Training Interim Final Rule
On April 8, 2008, the Department of Homeland Security published an Interim Final Rule (IFR) titled, Extending Period of Optional Practical Training by 17 Months for F-1 Nonimmigrant Students With STEM Degrees and Expanding Cap-Gap Relief for All F-1 Students With Pending H-1B Petitions. The changes made by this rule became effective upon publication of the rule.

One provision of the rule applies to F-1 students who are the beneficiaries of a pending or approved H-1B petition that is subject to the annual cap. The IFR automatically extends the F-1 status and, for students in a period of approved post-completion OPT when the H-1B petition is filed, the OPT employment authorization. For further information, see the Student and Exchange Visitor Program’s (SEVP) Policy Guidance 0801-01, Updates to Post-Completion Optional Practical Training, on cap gap provisions.

The cap-gap extension of OPT is automatic for eligible students. A student does not file an application for the extension or receive a new EAD to cover the additional time. The only proof of continued employment authorization currently available to an affected student is an updated Form I-20 showing an extension of OPT, on page 3. This document serves as proof of continued employment authorization.

The automatic extension of an F-1 student's duration of status and employment authorization is terminated upon the rejection, denial, or revocation of the H-1B petition filed on the F-1 student's behalf.
Student Responsibilities
A student who is eligible for the cap-gap extension must work with a designated school official (DSO) at the student’s school to receive an updated Form I-20. If a student is eligible for the cap-gap extension of OPT, the student can continue to work while the update to his or her Form I-20 is being processed. Because the cap-gap extension is automatic, the updated Form I-20 is not required for a student to continue working; it merely serves as proof of the extension of OPT employment authorization.

luciferyue 发表于 2017-5-16 09:25
层主求指路immigration girl和USCIS官方说法！！！
我是仔细看了USCIS没有看到明确的说法所以很怀疑。。 ...

这句：
“Once a timely filing requesting a change of status to H-1B on October 1 has been made, the automatic Cap-Gap extension will begin and will continue until the H-1B petition adjudication process has been completed. If the student’s H-1B petition is selected and approved, the student’s extension of status will continue through September 30. If the student’s H-1B petition is denied, withdrawn, revoked, or is not selected, the student will have the standard 60-day grace period from the date of the rejection notice or their program end date, whichever is later, to prepare for and depart the United States.”

你的h1b petition timely filed with COS了=你的cap gap ext自动开始=你有pending h1b case with USCIS
你的cap gap ext自动开始=you can work legally&你不需要proof证明cap gap（下段讲i20的地方有说这句）
综上，当你有pending case的时候就是可以用cap gap工作，直到你的h1b有信儿了（拒了、批了、没被选中了 etc）
(There's no way to safely prove your petition was not selected until the return package from USCIS is received.)

大家还记得申请opt extension的时候只要收到uscis收到case的回执就可以合法工作180天吗？差不多意思，有pending时 uscis会给一个暂缓期。

如果可以的话你可以让律师直接问USCIS。

neil41000 发表于 2017-5-18 00:42
我的DOS给了我这段话让我给律师看，他之前‘’看过‘’说不行，可能昨天才是真的‘看了’吧。

The Opt ...

谢谢谢谢！ 所以你们学校是可以帮你把I20 update到6.1号以后的么？我们学校大致也是这个说法 但是因为USCIS明确写了学校I20只能update到6.1号所以他们就只能给我update到6.1号。
这段是USCIS的
If a student chooses to obtain an updated Form I-20, the student should go to his or her Designated School Official (DSO) with evidence of a timely-filed H-1B petition (indicating a request for change of status rather than for consular processing), such as a copy of the petition and a FedEx, UPS, or USPS Express/certified mail receipt. The student’s DSO will issue an updated Form I-20, showing an extension until June 1.

我公司直接让我在OPT expire的那天停止工作，哪怕我把学校DSO的信件都给他看了他还是不行。所以这是还是听律师的吧。争不过他的

neil41000 发表于 2017-5-16 03:53
我公司直接让我在OPT expire的那天停止工作，哪怕我把学校DSO的信件都给他看了他还是不行。所以这是还是听 ...

所以律师说可以工作到6月以后也听他的么。。。
感觉律师反而不conservative。。。

luciferyue 发表于 2017-5-16 03:56
所以律师说可以工作到6月以后也听他的么。。。
感觉律师反而不conservative。。。

律师说的对的。可以工作到收到return package。

苏西Susie 发表于 2017-5-16 04:03
律师说的对的。可以工作到收到return package。

我觉得是可以工作到收到return package的咯，但是我们律师脑筋有点死，只认这个确定的日子，所以我也没办法

neil41000 发表于 2017-5-16 04:17
我觉得是可以工作到收到return package的咯，但是我们律师脑筋有点死，只认这个确定的日子，所以我也没办 ...

我觉得你们律师这样还好一点。。。 保守一点以免以后出问题啊==
我们律师真的令人无语 就在电话里说了一次可以 现在再找他confirm又不理了==

neil41000 发表于 2017-5-16 04:17
我觉得是可以工作到收到return package的咯，但是我们律师脑筋有点死，只认这个确定的日子，所以我也没办 ...

其实从公司的角度来说也方便一点……指定一个日子vs到一个indefinite的日子之后你不工作。

luciferyue 发表于 2017-5-16 04:20
我觉得你们律师这样还好一点。。。 保守一点以免以后出问题啊==
我们律师真的令人无语 就在电话里说了一 ...

USCIS上条例上写的是可以工作的，倒是不会有什么问题。我也问过我的律师、immigration girl也有过解答。

我也是一样的情况，学校给延期到了6月1号，律师说可以工作到收到return package，但是学校说以6月1号的为准

zbc0311 发表于 2017-5-16 04:58
我也是一样的情况，学校给延期到了6月1号，律师说可以工作到收到return package，但是学校说以6月1号的为准

看来每个学校/律师的解释还不一样啊，我学校跟我说能work到return package但我公司律师说不行