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中美抗疫策略,各自的优势和局限性

 
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I appreciate your effort to bring up this topic again, but to be real there is no need to make this kind of comparison.

Let's cut the crap and dive into the reality directly. The U.S now is one of the globe’s worst hot spots due to the great leadership of MEGA president administration, which pretty much just leaves each state to do its own job. Meanwhile back in China, things are getting better and actually people there support its government decision over containing COVID-19, despite the controversy of human-right which mainstream media loves to call out. Moreover, Chinese ppl are much more self-protective and follow the rule tightly. Taking the recent outbreak in Beijing for example. Assume Chinese government didn't do anything when they detected hundreds of new cases, ppl living in Beijing might lock down themselves when they hear the news, and that's how different people react to this virus.

The fact is, you don't really want to compare any country with the US about dealing with this pandemic. When you look at other countries (esp Asian ones like Japan, Thailand, South Korea etc), you will find that they treat COVID-19 much more serious than the US, partly because they experienced SARS before, and partly because they don't have as much as media and political BS. I don't get why people argue about the US is not doing too bad. Well, it is too bad, bad af. TBH, I don't see any sign that COVID-19 might end this year in the US without a valid vaccine. Other countries would freak out with a slight jump in their confirmed cases, and meanwhile in the US a lot of ppl simply don't give a shit about this virus, even if we already past 2 f***ing million. I am sure you can still find ppl saying this is no big deal and just like flu...

The last thing which I found terribly ironic is that when Trump took over the office, he wanted to build a wall to prevent Mexicans coming in and now here we are, foreigners want to keep Americans out of their countries. EU is still pondering if they want to ban US visitors and they will make a decision on July 1st.

There are many good things about the US, but don't blind yourself especially if it has anything to do with China. The way US handles Covid-19 is a joke.
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 楼主| waterAccount 2020-6-25 10:50:07 | 只看该作者
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本帖最后由 waterAccount 于 2020-6-25 10:54 编辑
seraphimdk 发表于 2020-6-25 09:36
我把我在另外一个帖子的粘贴过来,不是灌水哈
国内这一套从宏观上当然是有效的,毕竟if you want human ri ...

是的,任何措施都是有代价的。
因为其他疾病而引发的问题就是代价的一部分,如果站在那部分人的角度看,确实非常残暴。可能这就是政策制定的难处所在,随着社会进步,可能会慢慢改进吧。要是制度能带一点柔性就更好了,让一部分其他疾病的人也能接受治疗就更好了,也可能是我想得太简单,总之2020来的太突然。。。
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不是人身攻击,不过有自信你就用大号来辩,别整个小号在这发这么长的文章,这种什么比较优劣,隐隐约约透漏着给mg洗地的词语…你是想实现什么目的呢?我不信你就是单纯的发出来为了和大家讨论一下…
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 楼主| waterAccount 2020-6-25 11:02:15 | 只看该作者
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shawnnyPointer 发表于 2020-6-25 10:24
I appreciate your effort to bring up this topic again, but to be real there is no need to make this  ...

嗯,之前确实没想过跟欧洲和韩日相比,现在看来,确实美国做得不够。
另问大神一句:ppl 是什么的缩写?
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foreveryounger 发表于 2020-06-24 17:25:18
美国在抗疫,楼主是认真的吗?
u1s1,不是洗地,美国计划制定的是挺好…但是根本没什么人执行,前期zf,官媒过于轻视病毒的印象给自己de民众挖了一个巨大的坑。现在自己跳进去了。
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YZPYAN 2020-6-25 11:15:20 | 只看该作者
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美国没有在抗疫。核心原因是特朗普一直希望把经济作为竞选亮点,早期没有控制住。
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waterAccount 发表于 2020-06-24 19:50:07
是的,任何措施都是有代价的。
因为其他疾病而引发的问题就是代价的一部分,如果站在那部分人的角度看,确实非常残暴。可能这就是政策制定的难处所在,随着社会进步,可能会慢慢改进吧。要是制度能带一点柔性就更
tg的特点就是强权铁腕治理。我有朋友在武汉是一线抗疫医生,2月份的时候物资严重不足,真的是垃圾塑料袋套在身上当防护服的,而且不允许辞职请假,胆敢抗议直接吊销行医执照让你没饭吃。2月份下了班还能和我聊一聊医院的见闻,后来全体医护被下了封口令,微信什么都不敢说了。当然,如果不属于那部分“代价”(家人朋友不是医护,也没有慢性病不用上医院,又不在疫区),其实是这种宏观政策的受益者。
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新冠的特点是和医疗水平关系不大,所以越南啥的都可以控制住。但是取决于人的自主性和国家统一行动。美国在这两点完败。
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嗯我都懂我都体谅,什么拉平曲线,社交距离,我都明白我都照做。但搞了那么一大堆,曲线没被拉平啊?一州平了另一州又起了,全美的曲线连拉平的苗头都没有。现在大统领还带头办集会不遵守社交距离,测试能力也没怎么提升,拉的平控制得了就有鬼了。

补充内容 (2020-6-24 21:10):
理论很丰满,现实很骨感。道理看看都对,实际做做皆跪。
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