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本帖最后由 大队管理员 于 2019-11-14 17:33 编辑
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I am working very hard on improving my english language so I am going to write this post in english. I am going to write this post in english.. 1point3acres

I worked two companies from LUGFAAN. Two months ago I decide to change my job and tried for different company. Last I interivewed was 4-5 years ago and I realized a lot has changed since then. I am going to share my journey in last two month. I got offer from all LUGFAAN (expect the two i already worked). I also recieved offer fro few other good companies.

Failure to Start with
Like I mentioned I last interviewed was almost 5 years ago and the interview process has been changed as lot. I realized that interview expect a very clean and running code. they don't just satisfied with the your thinking process. To start with I interview at few small companies e.g. quoble, apartmentlist, cloudera. The questions was very general about array and tree. Interviewers didn't want to hear about the approaches or other possible solution. He/she didn't even interested in how did I reach to the solution. After I reached to the solution and I started making interaces and classes of the in all 3 interviewers stopped me and asked me to write only 1-2 function and compile it and run it. Obviously I was not that fast even though my thinking process was good and I know would have complete the code if I had 10 more minutes. I failed all small companies phone screen miserably. My core strenght are building scalable solution and writing bug free extensible code but these interview expected some algorithm trick whic I have not brushed up in last 5 years.

Moving towards leetcode
One of my friend advised that in sillcion valley leetcode is new standard. and how everyone is practising on leetcode and cracking all the interviews. This thought was counter intuitive to me as I never prepared on study fixed set of questions to get good grace in examination. I chose a hybrid way, I decided to participate in its context, going through only hard question to start with and practising on other platforms as well e.g. (topcoder easy). I have decided 1 hard or 2 medium questions every day without cheating. Write code for whatevery approach that I am thinking about and run the code. event he logic was not 100% accurate. Run the code and then try to fix the bug. I realized that It helped in two ways 1) I became very fast in wrtiing the code 2) I became very fast indetifying the issue.

Slow Moving
I heard and read on few places that people finishes 500+ questions from leetcode before interviewing and after the end of 20 days I had barely finished 25 question. But One thing for sure most of these question were hard and I have participated in leetcode contest. Both of these combination gave me a confidence and if anyone gives me any unseen hard problem, I will not get scare of it. I know how to think and I know the time boundaries. These two things helped me in many interviews (especailly G)

WhiteBoard Practise
I also realized in my current company that every one write code on laptop but when it comes to interview 99% people expect interviewee to write code on whiteboard and it should be clean and running. I can't change this system so I thought of adapting to the system. I bought a wall whiteboard. And I started practising my coding, design question on whiteboard only. Even to explain my current project I used to draw component on whiteboard only. It helped me a lot in almost all the interviews. It helped me teach on how to use whiteboard efficiently.

Recruiter Call are very important
Discussion to recruiter about new employer and the role never added any value. But I used these call for my practise. I used these call to practise myself for my behavioural and manager rounds. I always talk to my project, my role, the architecture, difficult problem to the recruiter. even when the recruiter didn't ask about these question. Two thing that I realized if you give more information about your current work it helps recruiter(god knows) but second and most important thing is that they will always hear whatever you are saying (actually it's their job). It helped me a lot .I have done almost 30-40 recruiter call  with differeent companies and after the end of it. I was fully prepared with all the question about my current work (high level), any tricky questions, how to efficiently use my time when explaning my current project.
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I can write more about my experience but I feel I should stop here. I'll keep updating this post of related information. but I'll write another post about it which also explained how to negotaive the salries and stock. that will also help to get compensation which is competitive in market

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本帖最后由 akdhfikbk 于 2019-11-15 09:52 编辑

手欠,帮大家翻译出来了,看我的米会不会更多些....
我曾在LUGFAAN工作过两家公司。两个月前,我决定换工作,并尝试了另一家公司。我最后一次参加面试是在4-5年前,我意识到从那以后发生了很多变化。我将分享过去两个月的旅程。我收到了所有LUGFAAN和其他几家大公司的offer
. From 1point 3acres bbs
无法开始
就像我提到的,我上一次面试大约是5年前,面试过程也发生了很大变化。我意识到面试期望一个非常干净且运行良好的代码。他们不仅对您的思考过程感到满意。首先,我拿到了一些小型公司的面试,例如quable,apartmentlist,cloudera。有关数组和树的问题非常笼统。面试官不想听到有关方法或其他可能的解决方案的消息。他/她甚至对我如何提出解决方案都不感兴趣。在找到解决方案之后,我开始与所有3名面试官进行交流,让我停下来,让我只写1-2个函数并编译并运行它。显然,即使我的思维过程很好,我也不是那么快,如果再多花10分钟,我知道代码会完整。我被小公司拒的惨不忍睹。我的核心实力是构建可扩展的解决方案并编写无错误的可扩展代码,但是这些面试期望我在过去五年中没有学过的一些算法技巧。

转向leetcode
我的一位朋友建议在sillcion山谷中leetcode是新利器。以及每个人如何在leetcode上练习并拿到所有面试。这种想法对我来说是直觉相反的,因为我从未准备过研究固定的问题集以取得良好的考试成绩。我选择了一种混合方式,因此我决定参与其中,只经历了一个棘手的问题,并开始在其他平台上进行练习,例如(topcoder简单)。我每天都在认真的情况下决定1个难点或2个中等问题。为我正在考虑的任何方法编写代码并运行代码。如果逻辑不是100%准确。运行代码,然后尝试修复该错误。我意识到它以两种方式提供了帮助: 1)我很快就编写了代码2)我很快就解决了这个问题。

缓慢移动
我在不少的地方听到和读过,人们在面试之前先完成了leetcode提出的500多个问题,而在20天结束后,我勉强完成了25个问题。但是可以肯定的是,这些问题中的大多数都是艰难的,我参加了leetcode竞赛。这两种组合都给了我信心,如果有人给我任何看不见的难题,我将不会感到害怕。我知道如何思考,也知道时间界限。这两件事在很多面试中对我都有帮助(尤其是G)

白板练习
我在我目前的公司中也意识到,每个人都在笔记本电脑上写代码,但是在面试时,有99%的人希望面试者在白板上写代码,并且应该干净,运行。我无法更改此系统,因此我想适应该系统。我买了墙白板。我开始只在白板上练习编码,设计问题。甚至为了解释我当前的项目,我都只在白板上绘制组件。几乎所有面试都对我有很大帮助。它帮助我教了如何有效使用白板。

招聘人员的通话非常重要
与招聘者讨论新雇主及其角色从未增加任何价值。但是我将这些呼吁用于我的实践。我使用这些电话来练习自己的行为和经理回合。我经常谈论我的项目,我的角色,架构以及招聘人员遇到的难题。即使招聘人员没有问这些问题。我意识到有两件事,如果您提供有关当前工作的更多信息,这将对招聘人员有所帮助,但第二个也是最重要的一点是,他们将始终听到您所说的话(实际上是他们的工作)。这对我有很大帮助。在结束之后,我已经与不同的公司进行了将近30-40个招聘电话。我对当前的工作(高级)的所有问题,任何棘手的问题,在解释当前项目时如何有效利用我的时间的问题都作了充分的准备。

价值和文化
每家公司都有不同的文化,它们遵循某些特定的价值观。例如,Facebook遵循“快速行动(现在正在改变)”,而 google遵循“ 快速发展的坚实工程 ”。我意识到,如果您说过“ 扎实的工程设计而不是快速发展 ”,那么大多数Facebook面试官都不会接受这种说法,他们可能会给您带来不良的文化氛围。类似地,亚马逊几乎没有10-11条原则。知道并给出这些10-11原理的示例比1(或2)个编码访谈更重要。因此,我了解了这家公司,这很有价值,如果有的话,请尝试写下任何实时示例。这也帮助我向面试官解释了项目。
. From 1point 3acres bbs
您可能会有蒙混面试过关的机会,但是一旦您进入一家自己不属于的公司,您将总是对自己的工作,业绩等感到压力。如果您比较聪明,并且知道自己要签约的内容,就会有一个更好的选择。未来的生活。. 1point3acres

我可以写更多我的经历,但我觉得我应该在这里停止。我将继续更新此帖子的相关信息。但是我还要写一篇关于它的文章,其中也解释了如何协商薪水和存货。这也将有助于获得在市场上具有竞争力的补偿

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I am working very hard on improving my english writing so I am going to reply this post in english. I am going to reply this post in english.

Great Plan! Interviews and career bar is always changed and it changed a lot. Keep moving on and keep catching the new thing is important!
Good luck for your career seeking!
P.S. just trying to follow the format from previous posts! LOL. check 1point3acres for more.
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I am working very hard on improving my english reading so I am going to read this post in english. I am going to read this post in english.

I think you have really clear mind and are good at decompose the problems that you are facing. Really high qualified post, thank you so much!
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Thank you so much for sharing such valuable information!
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akdhfikbk 发表于 2019-11-15 09:50
手欠,帮大家翻译出来了,看我的米会不会更多些....
我曾在LUGFAAN工作过两家公司。 ...
后悔没提前下拉😂
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I am working very hard on improving my english language so I am going to ask this post in english. I am going to ask this post in english.

Could you share your timeline? Like how long have you been preparing for coding/how many leetcode problems did you solve? Thanks.
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