冥想meditation真的有用吗？ 请现身说法

有过来人一开始不相信，后来发现真的有用的同学吗？ 能不能现身说法一下。想开始冥想meditation
谢谢

就是train你的脑袋进入一种状态。人脑包括你的各种感官其实是很可塑的，aka自己骗自己。包括创造出自己感知的“物理”层面的体验都是有可能的。你想让自己相信啥都可以，但就是需要训练。
这就跟现在最流行的spirituality/灵性这类玩意儿一样，就是给自己洗脑，让自己觉得自己最独一无二，万里挑一，与自然万物相连….如果真能把自己洗到那种状态，不就万事都不骄不躁，心态平和了。
所以说，肯定是有用的，如果你能达到那种状态。就是看你愿意信多少，commit多少了

peteraristo 发表于 2023-10-04 14:50:48
你这都是二手资料
那佛教来举例，你这就属于没看过佛经 然后指着烧香拜佛甚至邪教 都不知道演化了多少轮的东西 说这就是佛教

然而我从来没有提到佛教啊…冥想，meditation，本身就是一个非常broad的term，我还专门让gpt解释了目前西方大众那儿最广泛的理解是啥。而你说的演化不知道多少轮的东西更是目前现代社会最popular的形式。你所说的这种东西才真是小众，一般人也不会接触的东西

NaiveFrog 发表于 2023-10-3 23:57
就是train你的脑袋进入一种状态。人脑包括你的各种感官其实是很可塑的，aka自己骗自己。包括创造出自己感知 ...

不知道你说的这个东西是什么 反正不是冥想

建议自己查一下Vipassana meditation是什么
其他的冥想都是从这个发展出来的

peteraristo 发表于 2023-10-04 00:16:59
不知道你说的这个东西是什么 反正不是冥想

这又来跟我gatekeep啥是meditation了？why do I have a feeling you are the exact type of person I was talking about?
Also, since you didn’t bother to explain, gpt probably has a better explanation than you could ever offer

Vipassana meditation is an ancient form of meditation that originates from India. It is often associated with Buddhist practices, but it predates Buddhism. The term "Vipassana" is a Pali word which translates to "insight" or "clear seeing."

Here's a breakdown of Vipassana meditation:

1. **Goal**: Vipassana aims to cultivate a deep personal self-awareness and understanding of the true nature of reality. It seeks to eliminate mental impurities and to ultimately achieve liberation from suffering.

2. **Technique**: Practitioners begin by focusing on the breath, specifically the sensation of the breath entering and exiting the nostrils. This helps to cultivate concentration. After establishing concentration, the meditator then practices observing sensations throughout the body without reacting to them, fostering a sense of detachment and equanimity.

3. **Retreats**: Vipassana is often taught in 10-day silent retreats, where attendees follow a rigorous schedule of meditation, abstaining from speaking, and maintain a code of moral conduct, including not killing, stealing, lying, or engaging in sexual activity.

**Popularity**:
Vipassana has gained significant popularity worldwide, partly due to the efforts of S.N. Goenka, who established numerous Vipassana centers around the globe. Many people from different backgrounds and religions attend these retreats in search of personal growth, mental clarity, and spiritual insight.

**Difference from "Regular" Meditation**:
While "meditation" is a broad term that encompasses a variety of techniques and practices, the kind of meditation most people refer to in a general sense, especially in the West, is often mindfulness or concentration-based practices. Here are some differences:

1. **Focus on Insight**: Vipassana emphasizes gaining deep insight into the nature of reality, while many other forms of meditation might be geared towards relaxation, stress relief, or concentration.

2. **Depth**: Vipassana is a more intensive form of practice, especially when undertaken in retreat settings. The long hours and days of continuous practice allow for a deep dive into the mind.

3. **Structure**: Vipassana retreats have a structured and strict schedule, while other meditation practices can be more flexible in their approach.

In conclusion, while there are many forms of meditation with various goals and techniques, Vipassana stands out for its emphasis on deep self-awareness and insight into the nature of reality.

NaiveFrog 发表于 2023-10-4 00:40
这又来跟我gatekeep啥是meditation了？why do I have a feeling you are the exact type of person I was  ...

你这都是二手资料
那佛教来举例，你这就属于没看过佛经 然后指着烧香拜佛甚至邪教 都不知道演化了多少轮的东西 说这就是佛教

GPT比你一开始说的好不少，也只是停留在烧香拜佛这个层面上 也不难理解 毕竟没多少人真的想看佛经

冥想可以帮助更好地认识自己的内心，帮助从日常的情绪和烦恼中抽离出来，以更平静的方式面对生活. 建议找一个身边的meditation group (religious 或者non religious都可以)学习，如果自己通过看书看视频学的话可能比较难坚持下来.

xwsz 发表于 2023-10-04 15:03:42
冥想可以帮助更好地认识自己的内心，帮助从日常的情绪和烦恼中抽离出来，以更平静的方式面对生活. 建议找一个身边的meditation group (religious 或者non religious都可

我想知道到底有没有用？ 亲身经历吗？

我反正有空就弄一下，反正没什么成本。感觉作用一般。